Hey guys, hope you've all been well! Just got finished spending my weekend working on my game jam entry for Ludum Dare, where the goal is to make a game over just one weekend. I wanted to try something a little different so I convinced my roommate to help me make a horror game with absolutely zero visuals. I thought it would be a neat idea to attempt to make a game that was entirely communicated to you through audio. It's pretty rough around the edges, of course, but I'm actually pretty proud of it. Feel free to download it and check it out: http://ludumdare.com/compo/ludum-dare-32/?action=preview&uid=52179 (I apologize for the corny voice acting, but we couldn't use text so we had no choice :P)
I wasn't the only one competing in the jam, though! Vanilly and S worked with a couple of their friends (Zeta and Plumegeist) to make this seriously beautiful 2D platformer:
your posting about creating a game on the site of another game that is notorious for its lack of productivity and endless delays. much clever, very smart
ReplyDeleteI am very upset that Hartista made a different free game for us to enjoy.
DeleteI am upset that he did it while pocketing our money. He promised to make ONE game and one game ONLY with the funds that WE are giving him via patreon, then he turns around and does this nonsense.
DeleteWe have every right to be upset. Go be a brainless apologist troll somewhere else.
As below, Anon 05~223916, and as everywhere you've posted here... you should really get your facts straight before trying to kick up a fuss. For starters 'Full-Time' does not in any way equal 'A promise to do nothing else with their life at all ever', nor will it ever.
DeleteAs always, also, you aren't paying him to make a game for you. He's making a game he wants to make, and you are choosing to support him monetarily in that effort. These are two very, very different things.
c'mon give him a break
DeleteFOF think of this next time. read twice comment once. my point was "your posting..." not the making as you put it, because I in no way mind him spending time on other things on his days off this just didn't strike me as the place to post it.
Deletep.s I am a donator, I have a been a donator since about 4.3 and I will continue to donate till its finished
1) we re waiting for new version of BS ;(
ReplyDelete2) http://goo.gl/XICTFa
Thanks i will check it out :)
ReplyDeleteI think they are both pretty cool.
ReplyDeleteHarista reaching new level of hypocrisy
ReplyDeleteBS is full of bugs, unfinished and missing content, bad code operationalization so animations/game lags hard compared to pre-system/visual reworked one from 7-8 months ago, and lots of other crap and...
suddenly Harista jumps out with totally odd game that's not even related to BS.. Wasting time, patrons money and resources hard I see. scumbag being scumbag
10/10 I don't regret canceling patreon support as soon as that game rework bullshit started in 2014.
When I purchased the Breeding Season Team, I expected them to devote their lives to Breeding Season and forswear all other activities. I cannot fathom where they get the idea that I will accept them spending a weekend creating free games that I did not order them to make. It is an outrage!
Deletewhen people pay their shekels for BS team then they expect them to work on stuff they got paid not some not related project... during those 2 days they could add something new to game or fix shitload of bugged or missing content or fix the damn lagging of whole game: I prefer to buy new PC for The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt not for Breeding Season...
DeleteI did the same. After months of development of a flash game, still unplayable, bugged, some new Paint made backgrounds, same animation sprites but used differently - hard work, keep the money coming.
DeleteUnbelievable that people still think it's real. There are plenty of real hentai companies, milky lilith pixy etc, to support who made great products , instead of making a crook rich.
@Cloudy S. and yet here you are...
DeleteOh, the "it's a scam" guys are back. Hello! We missed you! Can you maybe let us know which characters you think are fat? All of them? Haha, how droll. I bet you guys are the best at parties.
DeleteThere is something called, objective criticism determined by objective criteria and objective quality of the game. Just because you can't discern it, and resort to argumentum ad hominem to guide your flimsy wits, does not make it their problem.
DeleteI'd really appreciate it if people would stop thinking they have some sort of right to demand and order, and generally treat H and the other BS creators like something between a possession and an employee. They are neither.
DeleteMost of the complaints here, as below, are about the assumption that 'on clock' time was spent to work on this challenge (which is a long-running challenge project for game creators to create something fresh and fast, in a time limited frame, and to share what they come up with with other artists and creators). Treating the creators like owned work-slaves aside... it wasn't. It was done on the weekend.
You know what else he might have done on the weekend? Spent time with family, relaxed, gone fishing, gone to the beach, played some other video games, attending a philosophy conference or slept. Would any of you have cared if he'd spent the weekend doing any of those things? no. Because it's his weekend, and those are usually taken off anyway. So why are people suddenly complaining when he uses that free time to enter a game-creator's challenge and produce something else free for people to look at, if they're interested? It's the most disgusting form of childishness to be given a free present, un-looked for, and to complain about it because it doesn't interest you.
-Erica
It's Ludum Dare, guys, and anyone who gets shirty at a creator for pausing their other activities to participate in the challenge, is being pretty staggeringly idiotic. Calm your collective anatomical bits and pieces.
ReplyDeleteWhile I don't have the time to check either yours or Vanilly-and-Co.'s LD entries out, good on you both for getting in on having a go at it this time around, HB.
-Erica
I think any other activities besides working seven days a week on the game of my choice and making progress that fits my notions is proof positive that it's all a scam. Erica advises calm, but how can one be calm when there are free games being created that are not the particular ones I want?!? This is a disaster.
DeleteAlso I saw a thigh that's fatter than I prefer and now I'm impotent.
Goddess above, calming anatomical bits and thick thigh impotency. You guys made my day.
DeleteHehe thigh impotency
@Erica, @FOF: The problem you two brainless apologists are willfully overlooking is that Harista is STILL GETTING PAID OUR MONEY while he does this nonsense side-project crap. He's wasting development time that we are funding on games that we don't care about and don't want to support.
DeleteThat's called fraud, and we have every right to be upset about it. If you took your car in to the mechanic to get it fixed, and find out that half-way into the repairs the mechanic decided to spend two hours making a paper-mache dog and STILL BILLED YOU FOR THE TIME you would be understandably and justifiably upset about it.
Anon, you still get to keep the paper-mache dog, and due to the fact we're paying for H's time, you make it seem it's our job to get mad if the man takes time to sleep. Sometimes dicking around on side projects increases the productivity on the main.
DeleteNope anon, we're giving money as free patronage to support an artist's abilities to create while keeping themselves in a comfortable manner.
DeleteTake your mechanic example: when I gave my car in, the mechanic would tell me when it would be ready. I drop it in on a Friday morning, and he mentions that it'll probably take two days to get everything done and replaced, so I should pick it up on Tuesday; there's this auto-specialist convention on over the weekend and he intends to attend it, and see what other mechanics are doing, and compare some of his handiwork to theirs.
No. I'm not upset.... and anyone who IS upset by that, is being an indescribable douche.
You really need some time off or vacation to recharge your batteries for all the Breeding Season work , or not?
ReplyDelete>g-guys we gonna take few days to relax from making game and recharge batteries
Delete>spend all free days to work on some random game
and people still support them omg. after all Internet is filled with brainless people that can be milked hard
Lurked a bit in the stream, and I have to say that it looked really awesome. Will definitively check them out after work :D
ReplyDeleteA change is as good as a rest
ReplyDeleteFor those who are annoyed that the team isn't working on BS every day need to do some research into how productivity goes down after 40+ hours per week.
All that said, with the amount of money being pumped into this game I hope you guys are all working at least 35 a week. I've worked on enough games to know how long it can take to add even minor features but some of these monthly updates are looking a little thin.
White knight cock sucking HOOOOOOOO!!
ReplyDeleteFor those seriously butthurt about the break from BS in order to work on a DIFFERENT game:
ReplyDelete1) Why is everyone on H-Bomb's ass but not saying shit about S or Vanilly doing the same thing?
2) Writers do the same damn thing, guys. We get stuck. We get in a rut. We need to branch out in to something new in order to recharge. I might take a break from my cyberpunk comic I'm working on in order to world build a high fantasy world for a weekend. It opens up new doors and come Monday I'm excited to get back to work on the comic. It allows the mind to wander a bit while stretching out wings. Also, it's a cool way to get more players here; more publicity. All artists do this: actors taking on bit-parts, directors doing a stupid webisode, writers switching genres for a short story, illustrators creating amusing fanart, etc.
So take a chill pill, kays?
There is a very, very key point you're missing here, stupid: HE IS BEING PAID FULL-TIME BY PATRON MONEY TO WORK ON BREEDING SEASON -ONLY-.
DeleteAnd then he takes a WEEK of development time, that could and should have been used on Breeding Season, and wastes it on this stupid one-off P.O.S. garbage "horror" game for a stupid contest that doesn't even matter......ALL WHILE CONTINUING TO POCKET PATREON MONEY.
I would not have a single issue with him working on side projects, if he weren't getting paid. The thing about your naive example about writers block and so on, is that they don't do it ON THE CLOCK. That's all side-project, in-my-spare-time sorts of things. Harista, however, did this all on the clock. He did it all while still pocketing donor money. He has basically outright LIED to all of us. All you have to do is go and look at the patreon page for Breeding Season where he says if people donate X amount of money per month he'll promise to work on Breeding Season FULL TIME. He's now making far in excess of that goal, and he still goes and does stupid crap like this wasting an entire week of development time on that nonsense!
If you think we don't have a right to be upset about this, then you're out of your goddamn mind!
Buddy chill out, this was my weekend. I spent exactly two days making that game. I did it for fun. I made the game primarily as a chance to spend time with one of my best friends who wanted to be part of making a game but hasn't had the chance to before. I wasn't "on the clock", if I hadn't been doing that I would've been spending time with people I cared about doing other fun things instead, not working; I already work 40 hours a week, and even more than that close to releases. That's not even like an arguable fact: I stream on a regular schedule. You can literally watch me do it. Even if you only believed I ever worked when I was actually on stream (we all do quite a bit of off-stream work too, between administrative things and the stuff I literally can't stream), that amounts to around 30 hours a week that you can straight up stare over my shoulder while I work.
DeleteI understand that you care very deeply about the game, and I genuinely appreciate that you do, but you need to calm down.
Wow really?!! I'm not upset about it. Wasn't there a thing where no one could post a comment as anon anymore? On a side note, can we be able to play the new version in the in game browser instead of only through download? It's impossible for me to, I use a tablet so....
DeleteI'll have the browser link stuff all fixed up by next release, I know that's been a PITA for some people.
DeleteAnon 4:25: That wonderful breed of internet childishness that believes posting stuff in all caps makes their complaints bear more sense or intelligibility. In this case, it's false claims, like stating that we're giving money in a way that obliges H to work on BS and nothing else... utterly false... claiming it took a week of dev time, when it was done over the weekend.... casting aspersions on the value of artistic sharing and challenge activities, such as LD, as though their arbitrary opinion about it is some sort of objective fact....
DeleteThen we've got equating working on a hobby project on the weekend with lying to patron; now that one is hilarious, as well as further reiterations of the complaint about it using a week of 'on-clock' time.
All in all, I think that if the posting Anon actually believes themselves to be a rational individual that was upset for properly founded and sensible reasons, that -they- owe it to the -creator-, at this point, to post back here and acknowledge that, given their assumptions about what time was used to produce this were false, and that it was done as a hobby project, in what would normally be the creator's free time anyway, that they are not, in fact, upset at all about this issue.
I wonder if they will? In these situations it's usually far more likely that they simply won't respond at all, or will answer back trying to make their argument again, using the same, already refuted points. I'm personally curious to see.
-Erica
@Anonymous:
DeleteI never read so much bullshit of a braindead hypocrit. I pay and I don't feel cheated. Updates are coming frequently and the team is listening to critism and stays in touch with the community. When all you have to do is to complain about some stupid nonsense you sound like a spoilt little brat. Here's the thing, we donate and that's completely voluntary. If you feel cheated just stop paying and play it for free when it's finished. Whatever you do, just please stop trolling...
I love you H!!!
DeleteI don't understand why people are getting so mad about the creator taking a weekend to do something fun. It's their downtime they can do what they want with it. Through Patreon we support Breeding Season, we choose to support them. They aren't obliged to put every waking moment into the game if they need a break. Seriously. I think a change in their environment is good. It's good for creativity, for moral, and for their own health. If they wanted to they could scrap Breeding Season, shut down the Patreon and say 'screw you' to all of us. But they don't, they're continuously putting up with the crap that comes from part of this community to work on a game they developed and chose to share.
ReplyDeletePeople who choose to complain, go unplug your Patreon and shut up, or just shut up and let them work on what they want to. You chose to support them, you aren't their boss. There's a big difference.
Even if contributing on Patreon did make you the BS team's boss, they could still legitimately tell you to get stuffed if you tried to tell them what to do with their weekends.
DeleteAfter reading over most of these comments very thoroughly, I can understand both why there are some white knighters willing to forgive the BS Team, and why there are so many who are upset about it.
ReplyDeleteSo H-Bomb took the weekend to make a whole, functioning game to be entered into a contest. Yes, it was his free time, as he does work on ideas for BS at least 40 hours a week with, as he said, about 30 hours of that being streamed. So claims of fraud are faulty.
However, I think it's a big fuck you, shit right in your face to the people here who have donated and hoped and suggested things for this game for so long only to have shittier and shittier versions of the game come out with more and more bugs, less and less functioning game play, and fewer and fewer animations. (Plus, hey, not that it had one before, but where'd that story go??)
People have been behind you on this for a long ass time, and you've spit in their faces over and over again. You've said before, if anything ever happened, you had enough money saved back to FINISH THE GAME in just a couple of months. You've made it so that any negative feedback is removed, even though the ONLY way to improve is to listen with an open mind to criticism from the FANBASE that wants to GIVE YOU THEIR MONEY.
And now you post up that you have completed a game over the course of a weekend.
Congrats.
Glad you had fun.
Now you can go back to shoveling shit around, moving and replacing things that don't fucking matter, and doing everything in your power to tinker around with a game you're pulling in nearly 30k A MONTH for, without actually finishing it.
GG HBomb.
make it better be quiet, they maked the small games in their free time and working hard to get the big game working again
DeleteNegative feedback is removed? How did you read it?
DeleteBut seriously, it seems to me like he does listen and is quite good-natured about it. We "white knights" are the ones who maybe get a little spittle-flecked. On the other hand, it's like being at a friend's party, drinking a pint of something and always having someone coming along and telling you how the beer is shit and the whole party is a scam. Bound to have a row after that, even if it isn't the beer isn't the best.
I don't care what they do with their spare time but I do agree with the original post to a certain degree. The amount of content added from the last update was next to nothing. The things added were completely pointless (scrollable farm, affection, happiness). These things can be added when they actually have content to back it up. Adding meaningless placeholders is not an update. How about just add one thing (that actually matters) at a time?
DeleteIronically, I've been favorably impressed with Hbomb's recent updates, after getting a little worried earlier this year. I think he's on the right track, getting all the pieces in first and balancing them later. The reason is that if you get some pieces in first and then try to add more dynamics later, it becomes easy to break what was already implemented. This is particularly true if one is trying to make save files portable. If we don't see any progress toward balancing by the end of May then maybe we should return to this, but for now I think it's premature to expect it. I also think that balanced game mechanics will take months to get right.
DeleteI also want to register that I haven't felt even a single drop of effluvia hit me in the face since I started supporting Hbomb a a year and some ago. Perhaps he has poor aim.
Tsunami - I didn't say that he made the small game on the clock. I said that it's shameful he could complete an entire game in a weekend and not make a working copy of BS when he dedicates so much time to it during the rest of the week. I think more than anything you just really misunderstood the entirety of my post.
DeleteFOF - Because I remember reading the negative feedback before his post about supposed "trolls", when he decided to preen the comments. I've been coming here long enough to have read it first hand. And I'm sorry, but saying you're a dissatisfied customer is not trolling. Nor is pointing out what's broken or asking why it's not fixed.
JYS - I would love to see him/them tackle things one at a time as you say. I think it would be wonderful for them to have a complete, working game before adding new characters or even just updating their designs.
NP - Very fair points, and I appreciate the humor. :)
All of those who think it was wrong of H to do this need to understand that this is HIS game and not ours, just feel lucky enough that you get ti play such a masgerful game free or if your a patron at a reasonable price. I'm sick of seeing self entitled people bitching about it.
DeleteI don't get why HartistaPipeBomb is getting all this hate for. It's not like he used the patron money to make the damn game. He wanted to try his hand at the competition which required a game to be made over one weekend. I mean come on its just one weekend, and the monthly update to the game will be made most likey with in the next two weeks.
ReplyDeleteAny way thank you HartistaPipeBomb for being kind and posting your project it was fun
Gives me even MORE incentive to make my own hentai mini-game of a similar type.
ReplyDeleteAfter all, I can make all the sprites in about one day, using k_kisekae2 (no, it's not even a joke).
Maybe even putting it on Patreon just for fun (and free moneys).
LOL!
As many already said it wasa their free time and its their busines what they do with it.
ReplyDeleteOn the other side, i can also understand the people who are upset. If i am working on something and i know that there are issues with it and i decide to spend my free time with working, then i rather work on fixing the issues with the main project instead of making something completly different and i think this is what most people are upset about.
but what the Breeding Season Crew is doing with their free time not our problem, they only wanted to share this mini games with the community, and now the half of them is complaining, and the top of all is, these people even trying to say HB and the others waht they have to do.
ReplyDeleteSTOP IT
You can complain again if they dont keep their promise with the update without good reason
It's the internet. People will complain about anything.
ReplyDeleteHonestly, HB can spend his weekend however he wants, that is not a retinal issue to bring forth.
You can complain about bugs, code optimization, gameplay/mechanic choices, even about stylistic changes OR HB's behavior that actually has something to do with BS (like remoying anyonimus comments)...but this..just no.
That said, some art does show "fat" things - like the extra thick legs on catgirls (just look at the catgirl in the maid outfit or the fem breeder X catgril drawing - the hips/legs are MASSIVE)
Also, why are the catgirls claws always out? Seriously. That's not a good things while having sex, and it's not necessary to identify her as a catgirl.
Sorry, this is the last straw. You delayed this game way too many times and for way too long and now act all outraged that people are upset you are spending your time making other games instead of working on the game they support you to work on, which has fallen behind so many times already. Do what you want, but I'm not sending you any money. Have your fanboy apologists support your bullshit. Scammer.
ReplyDeleteIt was the weekend :Y
DeleteHas anyone thought about adding a less cute monster than the gremlins, called 'trolls'?
DeleteI think a majority of people aren't completely sure why they're so angry with breeding season and breeding season isn't sure why it has so many trolls. The answer is simple, the game is all content and no story to create immersion. People are taking for granted all the details of the game such as the extensive details in hair skin tone facial features and the determinating factors that decide what is passed down from who. But the biggest thing is with everyone shying away from what they don't approve of, everyone is only playing with half the content max. Right now the only motivation players have is debt, once you become established enough making your payments aren't that much of a struggle, especially for players who don't have a problem using any sexual means to quickly achieve their goals. The game could use a rival breeder to challenge the player and since you have a male and female breeder pull a pkmn move and use the unchoosen character as the rival with maybe a slight alteration so fans can get their breeder on breeder fantasy without the insest. Challenges like fares and pageants could create reason to build ideal monsters and even have favorites and the added value trait could be done away with and to get more value on monsters the have to have ribbons
ReplyDeleteI actually play(ed) this game mostly for breeding itself.
DeleteAnd even THAT got ruined beyond repair like 9000 times in the short time span I've been playing it.
Also, between updates, I somehow lost the use of my monsters with traits over +5 (some were bred by me up to +10/+12).
Now, whatever gets born, is always limited to only +5, regardless of what I do.
The FUCK???
I'm confused and enraged.
I definitely believe that you are enraged. With most people I would doubt, but your virtuoso use of caps-lock makes me believe that you are the sort of sensitive soul who can be repeatedly enraged by an erotic flashs game in alpha.
DeleteAbout the cat girl claws i have mixed feelings, yeah in some situations they aren't ideal but for those of use who don't hate words know that monsters are tools of destruction with the fatel flaw of reflecting our desires, so rather than trying to kill monsters we decided to want to sleep with them so we'd stop getting our a$$'s handed back to us. So cat girls don't really need retractable claws because they came from the void to kill not give hand jobs :p
ReplyDeleteIf they came to only kill, they wouldn't give you handjobs.
DeleteAlso, you might want to explain to me how can retractable claws be a hinderance?
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