Sunday, January 11, 2015

Progress Update

Hey guys, just checking in. I've been working on the new items/consumables along with the new save system, and they're both coming along nicely. I've redesigned the way items work to be far more extensible so that we can have a lot of new kinds of items in the future: instead of just consumables that you can sell or feed to your monsters, you'll also be able to obtain things like equipment that will have persistent effects on a monster or crafting materials that can be used to make better items or for cooking. Items will also be stackable in your inventory, which should make them much easier to manage (as consumables will work a bit differently and have discrete quality levels, not every single consumable will be unique like in 5.3).

As for the save system, I'm attempting to make it so that you can choose a specific folder on your computer that you'd like to use for your save file (instead of Flash just handling it automatically). Hopefully that'll do a lot to help alleviate the issues with saves being finicky and easy to lose. Also, you'll be able to have multiple save slots in the new version.

I'm looking to release the next game update in about a week or two; I'll keep you all updated.

139 comments:

  1. Sounds very interesting. Looking forward to those changes. Thanks for the progress update.

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  2. Hi i'm a patron and we don't have the new debug codes, can you add them on patreon please?

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  3. If i may suggest a change: allow the player to order the perk list by name. in the 5.3 version is such a pain in the ass to find who have what perk.

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  4. "I'm attempting to make"

    Just
    ask
    Fenoxo

    Dear God you really like to waste time of something that you could easily learn how to know by asking other friendly nsfw game maker

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    1. fenoxo is hilariously bad at coding though.

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    2. Yes. Yes he is.

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  5. subway sandwich with extra "mayo" driping

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  6. In this post (much like the previous 37), more NEW half-assed features and no progress on the essential basic "older" features ever getting completed (animations, events, new monsters' integration, the myriad of NPC's, Love/hate system for NPCs,it's a VERY long list...)

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    1. saving your game isn't essential?

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    2. So what you're saying basically is: I understood absolutely nothing of your post, but I will try argue against it using the smallest exception anyway.

      Now with that said, do you think your question still deserves an answer?

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    3. And you apparently don't understand how development works. It may seem "half assed" in the sense that it is lacking options, but implementing the actual features is necessary. Most of your list aren't new features, they are new options. It is counter productive to add new options to the game before you have all the new features implemented. It is far more important to work up from a functional and basic platform than to work down from a laundry list/patchwork of features that are mostly complete, half-complete, and barely implemented. Not only is it extremely difficult to add actual new features if you added a ton more options, such as a completely different consumable system or an invetory and equipment system, it would also cause a significat number of problems in the end result and require even *more* time to fix.

      The only thing that H-Bomb should be taking to heart is the trap that many developers fall into, where they try to implement too much. You can always add more, after all, and it quickly spirals out of control. For a small developer, it can just end up overwhelming them and the game can enter into development hell very quickly. As a note, I don't think he's gone there. He has obviously, to anyone who knows anything about anything, been making progress. But I do hope he has a list of what features he wants to implement, and keeps it at that pretty tightly.

      After the basis for the game is implemented, as well, new content and options should be able to flood the gates on a regular basis. Implementing new animations, NPCs, Quests, etc is relatively simple compared to writing the code for the entire game. But you need to at least have a functional base before you can do any of that.

      Right now we are in the least interesting part of development, and nothing he could reasonably give you would pique anyone's interest, regardless of how important said updates would be. They are easily more important than any of the optional updates people keep requesting.

      So don't put the cart before the horse here. What is being done needs to be done, and it pretty much needs to be done the way it currently is done.

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    4. Don't get your panties in a twist, the wall of text isn't necessary either. So many words to say so little, so I'll just answer you in two sentences: 1- To answer your initial question: Hell no, multiple save slots aren't even within the top 20 priority list, even the need for saving at all is doubted because the most basic events like money and debt collection aren't even there. 2- I'll ignore that you contradicted yourself while naming what's essential to the game and which isn't, but I'll just summarize it by asking a question about your last line on "What is being done..."
      Which part of the newly implemented "additional" consumables, are essentials to the game?

      I'm having a little bit of fun about not citing my credentials in developing games in group projects (it's not that legendary, but still), and I honestly don't know how long have you been following this progress or if you're just an underage kid who doesn't grasp the concept, but I'll still repeat it: Development (for this past 6 months or so) has been going sideways mostly (i.e. variety) and barely goes forward in any way.

      You'll feel a strong urge to reply to all of this; do yourself a favor, don't. In fact don't take my opinion up for consideration at all, but look at the general sentiment from the other commenters and -maybe- you'll get the picture

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    5. The "additional consumables" show that he is getting the consumables system done right, which wasn't working at all in the last patch. This is a good thing, and this is essential. Calm the fuck down about your "Priority".

      In terms of priority now, since the event system has already been re-written, they should be super easy to implement. The events are way at the bottom.

      I, too, am looking forward to playing the game, and really want a working version out, but if he were to spend the next 2 weeks re-writing all of the events, and the consumables and save systems still didn't work at all, he'd get grief for that too.

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    6. Get mad some more, OP.

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    7. lol you are mad!! ur mad lmao..

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  7. Appreciate the progress update.
    However, I'ma repeat something from someone else's previous post. Don't mention whether or not a playable demo is coming out.
    Not only does this increase the tension for you, but it makes people anticipate it (and hence, imagine it unrealistically) which just takes away from the experience.

    Keep chugging away! I've been rooting for you. And will continue to do so. =)

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  8. Well, deadline mentioned again... I guess we can expect another missed deadline, another unplayable release and another "I fucked up and I know it" post. At least we have stability, in some sense <_<

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  9. Just do us all a favor and make sure the update also puts a playable version on here for the rest of us, please.

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  10. "I have very consistently made promises here on the blog on deadlines that I could not follow through with, and I've done it to a foolhardy degree and disregarded reasonable suggestions by fans to come up with better systems of setting expectations for releases." <-- you, a few updates ago.
    PLEASE, PLEASE, listen to yourself and stop making date and "I'll have it done by x!" estimations. I know it's a bit rough to rag on you when you haven't even released/not released anything yet, but just consider taking ten minutes to form an alternative way of giving players an estimation of the next release, instead of a footnote of a date or length of time that will inevitably either be missed or last minute and inevitable lead to a huge backlash of comments about it.

    Everything else looks interesting (I question focusing on complicating consumables and a save system when you've yet to release a stable build but, whatever.), but please, work out some way to keep fans up to date with what is happening and what is planned that isn't infrequent blog updates and broken promises.

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  11. H, before you'll decide to release a new build, make sure to qc it at least twice (there are often some problems that need to be hotfixed almost immediately, that's not good at all). That said, did you thought about recruiting a QC on a regular basis?

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    1. QC? Pfff, don't make me laugh. He'd rather hire a bunch more of animators then an actually useful staff member (like QC, another dev, PM, etc.)

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  12. Hmmmmmmm, iiiiiiiiice creeeeaammm! ;-)

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  13. I think H wants to put up all the small features first, bevor he gets the big shit (new monsters, npcs, animations etc.) done.

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  14. It was inevitable: Crafting is coming.

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  15. Sounds good. Keep chuggin! OH and add futa back asap plz

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  16. Have you considered changing your Patreon system from a monthly subscription to a pay on update system? So, you have a certain amount of work that has to be put into the next major version of the game, there is no time-stamp on when that release happens, but when it does it is then, and only then, that your patreons give their subscription payment?

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  17. Hay great game can't wait until the animations are done cos it kinda kills it for me when I get a monster that I like and I can't even watch it fuck :'(

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  18. Everyone seems to be complaining about the "Deadline", but all I see is that hes saying "I think i will have the save and consumables to at least a demoable level in a week or 2." There was no "the game is working" or "it'll be out this day". Its a progress update, and its useful. If he were to put out in a week saying "this snowballed, and it'll take another week or 2", then no real deadline was missed. Would people be any happier about it if he were to explicitly state it this way?

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    1. Well, you see, if he says week or too, and delivers actually in 3 or 4 - that would be noticeable. And people actually worry that this might happen and warn him against doing estimation at all.

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    2. People want updates as to whats going on, and want to know when things will be done. Conversely, people complain when they are given, because hes been off by so much as a day (hell, there were people complaining 24 hours in advance on the new years). A new manager cant always accurately predict how long things will take, and its stupid that people expect him to.

      I do see h bomb possibly shooting himself in the foot with the phrasing "next update", instead of "finishing this part" for example, but people expect some kind of a demo every month don't they?

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  19. Here is an idea for a random event!!

    Your monsters rebel and capture you for one day. All monsters that were involved breed with the player (regular chances of new monsters) . You lose the day and can't do any actions. You can use a consumable item to stop the event from happening.

    I was thinking it could only be one stable/pen that would rebel. Like all the holstaurus or all the stallions. Depending what is going on at the time in your game this could end up being kind of a negative or positive event. On the negative side you could end up losing a day, so if you had a request that was due you would miss it. On the positive side you would have a chance for every monster in that stable/pen to produce a new monster.

    Of course the absolute best part about this event would be that we get a forced player monster gangbang animation out of the deal.

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    1. I won't lie; I'd find that pretty hot, but I think Hbomb and crew are steering clear of anything too rapey. Maybe they'll have a toggle for it someday, but for now I think it's WAY more important to make sure everyone feels relatively comfortable with the tone of the game than to feed that particular fantasy. I'll be completely okay if it never happens.

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    2. @anon 9:23 said it much more eloquently then I would've : essentially, it's a piss poor idea to make content (unavoidable content, at that, unless the team really wants players to have to uncheck "rape" as an option along side "futa" and "mxm"...) that could potentially alienate a portion of the fanbase. As it is, almost all monsterperson and hentai games in general involve some aspect of rape, so I don't feel it's so important to cater to in BS.

      A consensual orgy, now, that I'm all for, and could pretty much have the same effect as you described in terms of offspring and time lost.

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    3. I think the closest we're likely to get is something along the current lines where the breeder doesn't really plan it, but once it starts he or she decides to just go along with it,

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    4. That idea is simply great! It's nice that some people here are still creative and can suggest some nice content. I'd love to see it implemented, ofc with mentioned animation.

      I feel like about to puke reading coments about "alienating a portion of the fanbase". WTF?! Gay content is fine. Futa content is fine. Even fat characters are fine. Feral is what people are asking about in coments. However we can't put single rape animation because someone might not like it... WTF?!

      I don't like fat characters - and can't turn it off. I don't like gays - fine, i can turn off these animations. I don't like futas - in theory i can turn it off, but in past we were forced too see event with futa elf and we couldn't turn it off. I belive this event will be kept with option to be hiden, so why can't we have rape event with the same option??

      Take a look at the older releases. Have you seen harvesting a buttstalion? Breeder harvested it and when the bucket was full she was turning her back to monster. What next? Whoa! Rape! I don't remember people complaining about that, do you?
      Did you try to read the story at the begining of the game? If i remember well, monsters live among people because guild master haven't decided to lead her own army to battle. Instead she walked against monster army and let all those monsters rape her. Why don't you complain about game background that's already implemented?

      This is not freaking story about Barbie's adventures! Game about MONSTER breeding and we avoid rape animation because it may hurt someone? Seriously?

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    5. "Instead she walked against monster army and let all those monsters rape her." Yeah, you know... That doesn't sound like rape to me. As for breeder related 'rape'. I'm pretty sure the breeder knows the risks that come with the job and isn't against spontaneous sex. Getting a giant horse cock crammed up your butt's still going to hurt but that doesn't mean it's not something they don't enjoy.

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    6. Ahh, I was wondering when the tasteful "rape is exactly the same as sexual orientation and fetishes!" comments would come in. That, and it's companion, "HOW DARE SOMEONE FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE WITH MY VIOLENT RAPE FANTASY?"

      The fanbase was much smaller with the older animations, and it's much larger now (therefore, more fans - paying fans- to keep in mind when releasing new content). H-Bomb has directly stopped fights between users in the comments before; it's not unreasonable to assume he'd like to maintain a reasonable lack of conflict and controversy with content.

      Also "let"....that kinda implies consent, y'know, but I guess if you're fucked up enough, rape is all the same as consensual fucking, right?

      I have no issue with dub-con/'surprise' content/animations provided it's implied at least that, y'know, both parties are enjoying it in the end. Of course, that's still a bit of the "oh, any women can enjoy rape as long as the sex is good enough!" thing, but I'm willing to look past that.

      Believe it or not, there are tons of people who enjoy weird porn like BS and still find rape either a) a total turn off and b) something incredibly triggering/upsetting (yeah, yeah, tumblr, I know, but porn-enjoying rape victims exist in real life, too)

      Just, like, keep in mind that everyone has different sensitivities, ya know? Taking out rape from a game doesn't make it suddenly kid friendly, nor should it ruin your enjoyment of something so varied as breeding season (unless, i guess, you exclusively get your rocks off to rape animations...in which case, feel free to play, oh, I dunno, literally every other porn flash game out there.)

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    7. That's all well and good, but keep in mind that the culture there is vastly different. People dress provocatively, openly discuss sex. Elves sell themselves as slaves to be raped out of sheer boredom.

      The only people I'd say could be raped are those Imperial people that are yet to be added properly. Dalia I think it was was part of that? She was the debt collector and featured in a pin-up. That one I admit would possibly be rape, but I doubt the breeder, most of the NPC that are in now or any of the common folk care much.

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    8. Count me as one of the people who has kinda-sorta "rape" fantasies where the sex is forced but enjoyable rather than horrible. Animals have sex if they can and its not really degrading in the same way if a breeder gets sort of "accidentally raped" inside my porn brain. Meanwhile, rape by people who should know better and basically just don't really care about their victim fills me with murderous rage that is neither pleasant nor sexy. Even knowing it's in the game would not be pleasant for me and probably make me feel much less inclined to support the game. I won't say "hey, that's wrong and no one is allowed to enjoy it" - that's BS judgement and for the most part I think people should be allowed to get off to whatever as long as no one is actually being hurt*. However, I think the sensitivity is completely legitimate and really appreciate Hbomb and the crew thinking seriously about it.

      *I've read enough erotica to know that plenty of people of every gender are into depictions of non-consensual sex who would be and are revolted by the real thing, or any excusing of the real thing.

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    9. I'm pretty sure that that's the case. It's porn after all. It'll be "I don't want sex." and then a monster forces itself on them and in the end thy end up enjoying it anyway.

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    10. @up
      I, personally, still count it as gross.
      Besides porn is full of that thing - I, myself, can't even remember last time I read/watched any consensual hetero one.
      Do I really should count consensual sex as a super-rare fetish?
      (Off-topic: Every time I read about people calling BS characters "fat" I feel urge to show them real-life fat women.)

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    11. You know what? I think devs should add other event, maybe even a quest chain. Marriage with monsters. As long as breeder and monster are not married they can't have sex. Only by mariage their intercourse might be acceptable, otherwise it would be sin, evil, gross and turn off. We don't want to hurt anyone feelings, so marriage is a must, right?

      "The fanbase was much smaller with the older animations, and it's much larger now (therefore, more fans - paying fans- to keep in mind when releasing new content)". That's sad if you want to abandon main concept only for maximization of payments. Would you sell yourself like that? I hope devs won't give up so easily. Otherwise I suggest to remove all monsters, maybe keep dickwolves. Then let's add vampires. Breeder's name would be Isabell. Done! Game would have millions of fans! Lovestory like Twilight is much more popular than breeding monsters who might not be gentle, loving or common in sex, so why not? Let's turn BS into Twilight.swf!

      Does that hurt feelings? Is it turn off? Does it ruin enjoyment? Rape or not?
      http://40.media.tumblr.com/fde6b5fce3cd55ad0dc08cba3d14e8b9/tumblr_ngtf5i2ziQ1sb49q1o1_400.png

      I guess that event from first post would probably look somewhat like this:
      http://40.media.tumblr.com/2cdff971db02117db57c9c5fce947737/tumblr_nbk3ornR6S1sb49q1o1_1280.png
      If someone can't stand content like above then maybe he/she should look for other game?

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    12. Jeez, are you that threatened by someone not sharing your interest in rape? :( Do you get upset when you see rapists get convicted at the news, and shake your fist at a world that endorses consensual sex?

      Seriously, dude. Asking for the devs to consider not adding violent rape to the game shouldn't bother you that much.

      And- really? The first image linked is questionable (stills don't tell much for the whole scene) but again, inanimate rape is generally considered "less bad" than character x character rape - and you can't tell me the second one is supposed to be rape. She looks bored, but she's not fighting back or doing anything to imply it isn't a consensual gangbang.


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    13. @Anon (2:43 PM)
      Hey! I get upset when I see rapist get convinced - two years are too fucking short sentence!

      @ Anon (1:49 PM)
      We're talking on a devblog for porn game and you call people prudish?
      Even if I believed in sex only after marriage (and my beliefs or lack of thereof aren't topic of this discussion) it doesn't change fact that I'm supportive of a porn game that has sex before it. (And not supportive of rape that can happen after or even in marriage.)
      While vampires could be cool addition done right (imho sucking somebody body fluids is sexual thing) I think that you're trying to imply that I like "gentle, loving" stories like Twilight. I guess you don't know much about the series, so I recommend it to you - abusive relationships are very near rape territory, no?
      I liked BS even before S-Purple joined the team, because it wasn't mainstream porn game and guess what is popular in porn? (Hint: It starts with "r" and ends with "ape").

      One image doesn't tell a story:
      - First image: as Anon (2:43 PM) pointed these tentacles appear to be inanimate and monsters in OP suggestion sounded intelligent.
      - Second one: Judging by breeder face I'd call it consensual.

      As for "I hope devs won't give up so easily." sorry for destroying your dreams, but their composer is against non-consensual violence against women (and men I hope?), so if catering to some anon fantasy would mean that Jake Kaufman will quit the project I guess H-Bomb will chose to not cater to it.

      There is a way to connect both consensual sex and rape fantasy, but I don't think that it should take place in BS.

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    14. Despite being someone who gets off on rape fantasies if they're presented the right way, I have to say that it makes me a little proud to be part of a community that draws a line at rape. BS in that past has skirted the edges but never got into the places where I got uncomfortable, but even if they pulled back the line a little to rule out some of the stuff I liked, I'd much rather they do that than push it out to where it ruins the game for a bunch of people. Besides, as other posters have said, there's tons of rape porn out there to whatever extremity you desire. BS doesn't need to cover that niche.

      On a related note, lots of stuff gets called 'rape' in the context of erotic fantasy that really isn't rape. If you sell yourself into sex slavery for kicks on the idea that you'll get 'raped', that's basically power transfer role-play taken to an extreme. Presumably the breeder takes on his or her task out of some of the same reasoning despite knowing these are all *sex* monsters. When getting caught unawares by one of those monsters, it's kind of like the annoyance of having a pet wake you up in the morning because it's hungry. If it was a human doing it, it would be rude and intrusive in the case of breakfast, or truly despicable in the case of rape, but since it's an animal, it just comes with the territory. The addition of elves complicates that, hence the somewhat different treatment in the BS story.

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    15. @anon 9:21 pm (and Ruia)
      Ahh, commentors like you give me hope for this community :")

      I totally agree with your post : lots of the "rape" mentioned or implied in BS seems actually like a consensual rape scenario or bdsm - the elves selling themselves being a good example, since it's a fetish for them and they get off to it/agree to do it to themselves, so it's consensual.

      I definitely see the breeder as knowing and accepting - even enjoying - the 'risks' that come with the job. Kinda like having a dog hump your leg, I guess (but if the dog was a monster literally built for fucking, like the dickwolves)

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    16. @ two anons above
      Rape fantasies done right (imho RPs are the only options for it) can be very hot indeed. ^^
      There's plenty context in BS that I personally don't like or don't care about and I'm silent about it (besides, lack of hot dudes, but since catguy became official, that stopped being problem), but rape is too important issue to be simply ignored.

      And yeah, I agree, in case of elves it's very consensual. Breeder always seemed to me like one of those silent, but pervy types - she knew the "risks" beforehand and didn't mind them + different culture, less tabooish about whole sex thing makes her behaviour normal. Lack of humanisation helps them too, if some of events currently implemented were with NPCs, people would be more vocal.

      For now, iirc, the only rapey thing was Kay story about mermaid consumable; that one grossed me out.

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    17. Funny how the starting post never said anything about rape. Why not comment on the persons idea and help the devs come up with more content. More random events would be great.

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    18. @up
      "Your monsters rebel and capture you for one day. All monsters that were involved breed with the player"
      "Of course the absolute best part about this event would be that we get a forced player monster gangbang animation out of the deal."
      Keywords: "rebel, capture & breed" and most important "FORCED".
      If kidnapping person and forcing them to have sex with you isn't rape, then what is rape?

      We commenting on this idea (saying that we find rape terrible and don't want events with it).

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    19. So if we removed the forced part and just went with consensual orgy/gangbang, players would be more accepting? That actually sounds more appealing. Either way lets come up with more ideas for the devs.

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    20. Kind of a random speculation, but I suspect the reason some people (like me!) enjoy some rape fantasies is that they sort of give you license to indulge in your sexual side without having to make any decisions. This only works if what's being forced on you something you sort of want to do already, but aren't doing because of unsexy practical concerns. I think that's part of the problem with rape by the fully-sapient: as soon as I know someone is the sort of person who would knowingly rape someone, I definitely don't want to have sex with them any more, which ruins the fantasy. "Accidental rape" by a hot guy/girl/futa, on the other hand, is kind of my favorite thing.

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    21. Also, in a fantasy I'm ultimately in control, even if fantasy-me is not.

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    22. This is a phenomenal discussion.

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    23. @ Anon (11:35 AM)
      Consensual orgies and gang bangs are cool with me (not sure if here are people who don't enjoy idea of multiple partners, but better safe than sorry).

      @ Anon (12:12 PM)
      I'm personally more interested when characters are experimenting with their own free will (or better yet, their are fully aware of their own sexuality), which is kinda rare.
      It's psychological thing - when something you want is taboo in reality, you feel ashamed that you want it, so rape fantasy is the answer - I didn't initiated it, they forced me to do it, I didn't have a choice so I have no reason to be ashamed because of it. It slowly disappears, as society becomes less tabooish about sex and more equal.
      I think that it could easily works in RP rape fantasy or in (good) BDSM - protagonist always can use safeword to stop it and s/he doesn't do it because it's enjoyable (unless it's bad one, then it's imho rape).
      Define "accidental rape", please, because I seriously have no idea what it is.

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    24. This is kind of a though one but I guess if its consensual then that's fine as long as no one is being forced to have sex.

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    25. I think "accidental rape" is where no one intends to rape anyone but it happens anyway. Like with a randy dog or whatever, which can't really ask if you want to, or even think about whether you want to.

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    26. @up
      I don't think that anon (12:12 PM) talked about that ("hot guy/girl/futa" can ask about consent).
      I don't really count animals, because their minds don't understand concepts of "consent" or "rape".
      Define "accidental rape" more, please, cause your explanation is kinda weird (language barrier maybe?) - like using two examples that are from a totally different situation imho.

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    27. Anon 12:12 here again. I confused you because, as you note, I was actually talking about multiple different scenarios without clarifying. One is the "accidental rape" of a creature that has no concept of consent and another is the more elaborate (and probably even less plausible!) fantasies in which misunderstandings lead to sex I didn't consent to. Its kind of "I love the idea of being 'raped', as long as it's not by a rapist." I don't really know how common that is.

      While I think the analysis about taboos and shame probably has to have something to do with it, my understanding is that generally more confident women are actually more likely to have these kinds of fantasies. That fits my experience, but YMMV. Anyway, the alternative explanation that I feel fits is that people who feel like they're in charge of their lives want sexy abandon in the bedroom, not more control and decision-making. In the bedroom of erotica, anyway. Sexy abandon in real life is too risky.

      Not sure why I always imagine a more naive self, though. Maybe just because otherwise it's impossible to tell the stories?

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    28. Didnt 5.3 have an event where you came across a dickwolf and had the option to leave it alone, or use one of your monsters on it? if the monster failed, the player got raped?

      I'm all for rape, and a group wide gangbang sounds sexy as hell... but a forced event that can ruin a day does not sound appealing.

      besides, wasn't s-purple working on an animation for a 3 dickwolf gangbang a while back?

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    29. @anon 11:04 I didn't really read it as rape. I think the text implies that you decide to go along with it and then have a good time for a few hours(!).

      Anyway, gangbangs don't have to be rape - I don't think you meant to imply that, but I wanted to be sure. I will say that I used to hate gangbangs because they felt too rapey to me, but I guess I've changed because now I do like them sometimes. Though, I also find rape stories way sexier now for whatever reason. I think is still agree with the anon who doesn't like thinking about rapists, but I wouldn't mind the OP's rape scenario, either. That doesn't mean I like any old rape porn now, but I trust Hbomb and crew not to do anything too screwed up.

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    30. I'm finding it funny how quick people are trying to shut down a very reasonable addition to the content. Although it is completely understandable for people to get upset if the scene was "forced". Yet if you at least give people a choice, then it's a great way to bring even more fans while still maintaining the current base. Choices, baby! Give 'em!

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    31. H-bomb hates violent towards women as well as a few other members on the crew so even if they're was some kind of rape-ish event it would have be consensual in some way.

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    32. Anon 3:15PM H-bomb had a list of do's and don'ts its just something he doesn't like.

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    33. I don't think it's silly at all. Some rape porn (IMO) is super hot and some is just dripping with misogyny, and that is super not-hot. In fact, it's so not-hot that I can see why it would make people shy away from supporting the game even if we don't have to see it.

      Fortunately the team is diverse enough to where I think they can hand around ideas and check to make sure any scenarios aren't crossing the line, or fixing them if they are.

      Or they'll just not do any scenes that are rapey at all. I think they could do it without being bad, but there's plent of other sexy content in the game, it doesn't need it. As I said before, I think some rape porn is super hot, but I dont *need* it to enjoy the game.

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    34. Misogyny, misandry, hell it can be whatever you want it to be, but that's not the point. Context matters, sure, but it is just fantasy after all. I also agree that h-bomb can choose not to want it in the game. The truly insufferable part, however, is when people choose to play the child and yell "mommy there's a monster under the bed" instead of being a rational adult.

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    35. It is forced? STOP THE PRESSES THAT CAN'T BE ALLOWED!!!!!

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  20. I'm not a Patreon and I've seen the update some day ago, when looking at the monster list I noticed that there's no monster with tentacules, I don't know if you plan on adding new monsters, but you should really consider this idea!

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    1. There's a planned mandrake monster that has tentacles and a tentacle scene with the female breeder already previewed on S-Purple's tumblr.

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  21. Eye Am Excite, as far as consumables go... is it possible for us to get 'toys' to 'enhance' our pets? I wouldn't mind some buttplugs or beads to turn my elf-girls into elf-catgirls, maybe some things for male monsters that improve performance. Who knows, maybe this could lead to some special quests that provide consumables that offer special monster transformations?

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  22. Hey H-bomb tell S-purple that there's not enough harpy penetration. Every bit of art I've seen so far involves harpy getting eaten out or getting eaten out while giving a footjob with its crusty bird talons, better than a regular footjob imo but still. The only penetration I've seen with a harpy was futa-harpy on catgirl. We don't just need more harpy scenes, we need harpy scenes with penetration, and giant dragonesses.

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    1. Isn't that because they have yet to design/ animate any male "Y" X female harpy?
      Also, I think its Vanilly that design most of the positions, or they both do that perhaps :P

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  23. I'm public but I can't download the new 5.5.1 because apparently my laptop doesn't run that type of file.
    It could run the other download files...but not this one... Will you change the Stable Build to the newest public update soon?

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    1. Download the SWF and run it with your browser.

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    2. But when I do the map doesn't work, I can't breed human with my monsters, and I can't go into the other buildings aside from Monster Store and Item Store

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  24. Can you use consumables as ingredients? Like 2x wolf jizz + 2x horse jizz + 1x catgirl squirt + 1x flour + 1x egg = 4x waffles? That'd be both hot and hilarious.

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    1. Hear this man/woman, like there's actual woman here, at least a easter egg about that.

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    2. lmao, son, I'd say at least a third of the game's regular playing audience is female (including me)
      But yes, that'd be hilarious. Didn't S-Purp preview a cook or chef on his blog before? That'd be awesome.

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    3. A dragon of sorts, yes.

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    4. Shenanigans!

      Rule of the internet:
      30. There are NO girls on the internet.

      I also woud like to bring to your attention to rule
      32. You must have pictures to prove your statements.

      And as finisher:
      32.5 All your pictures were obviously Photoshopped. No Exceptions.


      Jokes aside i'm really curious to know if the dev team has a "plan/list" of creatures / features or they just are trying to implement as it goes....

      Anyway i'm looking forward for it.

      Anonymous A

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  25. Does anyone know we're going to get in the next upgrade? I mean, here post H-Bomb says we're going to get a new items system and a new, fixed working system, but are we getting (in the next upgrade) the animations that S-purple and Vanilly previewed in the last posts?

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    1. Very much doubt that. If we are lucky, we might get a couple of catgirl animations or dickwolf animations, since they are the first on that ladder "system" vanilly talked about. But who knows :)

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    2. We should get another progress update sometime soon (hopefully). H-bomb really needs to throw out progress updates more often so we can believe that he is working somewhat hard.

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    3. I think starting this week or the week after is when we should be getting the next update.

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  26. New Progressupdate Please.

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  27. I miss the old creampie animations. But I am very patient and hoping that they will come back. <3 keep workin hard :3

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  28. Guys this game is a scam... You do realize that right. I mean like think about it hes the only one doing half of the work and he hasnt hired someone implying that he wants to keep ur money.

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    1. there's what, 6 people on the team now? S-purple, h-bomb, vanilly, mittsies, that one music guy, another coder I think.
      If it were a scam, I'd question his wisdom of involving so many people in it and splitting the money so many ways :P

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    2. @anon 12:44
      There's no another coder, dude - it's just H-Bomb and his harem of animators <_<
      Don't know if music guy exists either - there's no examples of his work whatsoever.

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    3. @切開
      Now that's just plain hating.
      There supposed to be another coder called Fleet iirc (and yeah he didn't showed his previous works to us (am I using correct tense here?)).
      But! The music guy (aka Jake Kaufman) is quite known, so there's plenty examples of his works all over the internet.

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    4. @ up
      You don't have to insult people to get your point across.
      S-purple didn't updated his tumblr for only a week, but Vanilly updated her yesterday (two days ago with actual previews).
      Imho if you're professional working in the age of internet, you sure don't want to lose creditability. If JK just took the money and run he'll get so much backslash for it that I doubt if he could find good job under the same name again.
      I don't really know how coders supposed to post their progress - screencaps full of code isn't what most porn fans want to see daily.
      Most of the time, more people in project =/= faster updates, but = better quality. Speaking from experience here.

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    5. @Ruia
      Anon545 meant that not JK took money, but that JK involvement in the project was lie from beginning. Indeed, it's possible to find his works all over the internet. BUT! What proof is there that he's indeed is involved with the project? I mean, beside H words, because they loose their credibility with each day. Maybe any mock-up works for BS? Any words? Anything?

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    6. I have to agree with Ruia on this H-bomb has already explained as much as he can a few posts.

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    7. @切開
      What mock-up works? He's composer and composers works at the end of the project, when everything else is ready and no subject to change.
      Jake Kaufman talked on this blog with few folks using his official account. So only other option is hacking his account (and I don't believe H-bomb has abilities to do that unnoticed) or that JK is scammer.

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  29. Wait... Kaufman is in the project? He got the IGN's award for best music....(Shovel Knight)

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    1. Yup H-bomb Emailed him and asked Kaufman if he would make the soundtrack for him and he said yes.

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    2. He isn't even afraid of tying in his professional name with smut either.

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    3. I know its going to be pretty awesome to hear that soundtrack but for now the game is not ready for it yet.

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  30. Its getting worked on check out vanillycheesecake.tumblr.com she posted a rough concept of the male x dickwolf sex scene.

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  31. Can anyone post a tutorial? I used to get the concept of "look for what stats are + and breed out the -" but I'm baffled by the letters and dashes and am not sure how to tell which creature improves what stats in its partners.

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    1. Now, it only works with a linear xp system. A monster with say charisma - will not gain any charisma upon leveling while a monster with an ¨a¨ charisma will get a ton of it. If I remember correctly, a monster with high str will give more exp to its partner

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    2. Don't bother. This system is still a total shit and you can't realy breed any improved generations. Almost everything now is RANDOM.

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  32. Hbomb, Spurp and Vanilly are all quiet now. Did something go wrong in the group?

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    1. Fuckin DED GAEM

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    2. Not at all! I just don't get involved in anything non art related.

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    3. They could really use your enthusiasm out here though, you are presently the only visible heartbeat.

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  33. Five days remaining.

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    1. You mean for the MAYBE have it done by that time. Right ?
      So it's not missing a deadline, it's just annoying that there is no progressupdate from him. Or a simple 'Hi guys, still working on it. I'm still confident that / I actually don't think that I will get xyz done that quickly. I'll keep you guys updated.'

      That alone would be better than nothing.
      But NO, he's not missing any deadline whatsoever if he doesn't have a new version by the 25th of January.

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    2. Thank you! I was thinking the same thing. But... that progress update would be really nice. its been a week and a half since we've heard anything...

      Right when I was thinking that we were getting a lot of progress updates, and that last years averaged out to one every 3 days or so, here we are in a long stretch of nothing at all.

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    3. There are no updates because those idiotic white-knights told him to remain silent so that people won't get angry. Stupid people never die out. Want to take bets how fast one of those will come flying in for defensive maneuvers?

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    4. I'm a so called, "White Knight", and I'm pretty sure no one told him to be silent. In fact, it's quite the opposite for me. I told H-Bomb and crew that if they were to cease communication like the unfortunate October event, I'd be first in line to withdraw Patronage.

      Can I ask where you get proof we told him to ghost out? I again say the difference. If H-Bomb doesn't relase any form of progress update (along with S-Purple and Vanillycheesecake), even if it's so much as a, "Hey, still doing stuff.", then my usual respone of, "He can take my dollar and fry it in hot oil" becomes, "Obviously not worth the dollar if he doesn't want to work on this/Strumpets looks good, my dollar goes there now."

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    5. Just read the comments, Jason? The very first reactions to this news bit were "don't come up with any deadlines, be silent about what you want to accomplish and so on".
      I'm also supporting the notion that all of them should post about the progress way more often but then again, has anything ever been satisfying lately? Truly, really satisfying? Really, really, really satisfying?

      If you folks really think that the current state of affairs is okay, then you have a very, very low threshold for quality expectations. especially for everything that is involved with this project. But maybe that's just because we live in the derping times? People can just take the money, deliver something sub-par and don't even have to take responsibility for it? Just saying. Why even make an effort?

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    6. This week or next week that sums it up no time or date was giving so just check in and out every so often.

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    7. Look, I'm the one up above with the exceedingly long post defending HB's decision making process of what to focus on and when to do so. I still think focusing on the coding is vastly more important in the long run than any other matter. The game needs to at least have a functional framework behind the scenes before you can really start implementing anything of value.

      Equally, I do think people are being rather unfair towards him about things that are difficult, or impossible, to control. You don't just snap your fingers and have perfect code out of nowhere. It doesn't work like that. Sometimes coding takes excruciatingly long to do seemingly minor things. Sometimes something doesn't work, and it can be damn near impossible to figure out. This all takes a significant amount of time.

      Further, not having a the project manager filled is uncontrollable; you don't just say "I want someone to do it" and suddenly you have someone hired on. Finding a worthwhile candidate who can perform the necessary tasks takes a significant amount of time. Similar jobs can take months, or even years, to fill in professional settings.

      *THAT ALL SAID*, the one thing that can be accounted for is updates on progress, however "slim" they may be. A daily update, with just a basic set of "what I did today" would take about 10 minutes at the end of the day. A weekly progress update would take a half hour to an hour. It doesn't need to include anything worthwhile, rather just an assurance to donators that progress is proceeding. If all it is includes "Working on menu system codes", and "fixing code for menus" it at least gives insight into what the hell is going on. The current rate, however, gives nothing but a lack of faith that anything is happening. It is rather unforgivable.

      Once again, a far more significant number of people want to know what is going on than those who want random content X to be included NOW! Most just want an idea of what the fuck is going on, regardless of how uninteresting it would.

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    8. @Anon 12:42
      That's all I want. Something that says, "Still here."

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  34. Hey guys! Is EVERYONE READY?
    Let's play MOTHERFUCKING BINGO! Choose one sheet and be ready within the next few days!

    https://mega.co.nz/#!nccA0RwR!22DTh2r6z4B3sAE7RS059dHpOkbUABzk2j1vzNrawRI

    Also HB - feel free to use one of the sheet as a means to know how much is yet to be done. I'm pretty sure it will improve your "project management" tenfold. Just scratch stuff, even a monkey can do it.

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    1. BINGO BINGO BINGO

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    2. These bingo sheets aren't even fair. On the first call you will get around 16 squares already.

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    3. Sir this is the best thing i have seen today.
      You totaly made my day and derserve credit.

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    4. I think the last patreon checkpoint was to hire a full time scratching monkey

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    5. Rofl! :D

      Sheet about shit. Realy GJ dude! That bingo got a point!
      I don't think that devs will get any wiser by these, but im sure quite some people could laugh at least! ^^

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  35. Am I the only one who comes by pretty much to just geek over the comments this week?

    I just play the old functional versions with the old animations when I need an actual fix.

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  36. to all the haters out there F you and remember Rome was not built in a day if you want something good you have to wait or if you think you can do better make your own dam game cos some of us dont mind waiting for someone to make things for us

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    1. Then F you too! Now take a road to HB and blow his dick. Look for guy who's relaxing in hammock instead of working on what he promised. If you blow him good enough maybe he will be generous enough to give us a line or two of status update.

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    2. how about u make your own game than u can be the main guy in it and it can be about u sitting in front of your computer pulling your dick complaining about how people are not giving u free stuff quick enough

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  37. p.s great game cant wait to play the finished result : )

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    1. Can't wait? You have to wait. With this progress it will be done around 2072.

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    2. have faith my brother the divine work of the these chosen few will come to pass to light the way for all mankind and only those with the strength and will to stand by them in these dark days will see the coming light that's hiding just over the horizon

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  38. Don't want to be nagging, but after more than a week a little sign of life would be really sweet.

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  39. I've lost all faith in this game.

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  40. I'm streaming some animation if anyone wants to come and watch! ⊂((・▽・))⊃

    https://picarto.tv/live/channel.php?watch=Vanilly

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    1. I wish I could, but like usual I'm only able to watch streams long after you're done.

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  41. Or not watch streams, as the case actually is. Though, is there a way to watch the stream after the fact?

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  42. three days remaining.

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    1. I hear you. I used to check for updates once a week.
      After being told a big update was definitely coming by... October I think it was now, I just stop by once a month.
      Nothing has changed.

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