Alright, here's 4.7. As I mentioned before, this is a smaller one. Likely this will be the general pattern for updates: the first update of the month will be smaller while the second update will be larger/more significant.
I'm having some problems compiling the .exe version, I'll try to get that uploaded as well ASAP. Until then I'll have the .swf uploaded.
Additions
- New models and variations for male and female elves
- Dickwolf x Dickwolf and Dickwolf x Breeder sex animations
Bug Fixes
- Minor bug fixes
Tomorrow or Wednesday I plan on doing a fairly large status update for some major gameplay changes I plan on rolling out over the next couple of updates.
EDIT: Oops, found the problem, will upload the corrected file in a moment.
Dickwolf too big, or Breeder too small. >_<
ReplyDeleteА так все гут.
It's marvellous to see how it evolves, still, i am concerned about a thing:
ReplyDeletewhen the Dickwolf mates with the Breeder, it is strange that it happens "standing like stunts"...
it is loosing the appearance of beastial-demons, yes, they are both beasts... and demons, but the appearance of early dickwolves was a more "spicy" thing.
At least with a "on all four" would solve the issue, still, i am not sure of that, as animations are not easy.
PS: breasts spins is also... weird...
Agreed the breeders' boob spin is... odd, lol
ReplyDeleteand in my own little opinion, she's a bit too thick looking now too. But I do love the new stuff so far ^.^
Keep up the great work and I'll keep sending you money! =D
I think her weight is a lot more realistic. :/
DeleteI prefer the weight. The boob spin though, eh.
Deletei prefer the weight rather than the scrawny temp used with everyone else
DeleteYes... i checked the new animations. And i can say that you found the way... Animations are simple but the frame design is awesome. I think you found the way to make the animations with less "different" frames so this will make spurples work easier too and same time gives smooth animations...
ReplyDeleteThe hardest part is to find your "how to do" style. Then everythings run faster then light. So i am happy to see that. you gave 2 month for it (maybe more) but now we will see very nice and smooth animations. As a long term animator i dont have any problem with the nw animation style now.
Now lets discuss the animations.
Wolf-Breeder:
1. Position rocks realy.. its like the wolf owns you rather then you own him... he just catchs you and bamm... I am leaving on 4 positions for feral trait. This position can be even an event by himself "Wolfs are free!!" like :)
2. I guessed that you didnt start at emotions of breeder... She should look somewhat afraid i think and at the entrance and knotting part the expressions should chance. She should feel the pain at least. But as i said you will handle it soon.
3. The right hands can be move more... at little details the loss of movement makes it looks like statue..
4. The animation flaw is one linear loop. Can you make other when he is knoting. Not just one push, make it two push, one to knot and one for knotting... will be much better.
5. When will we see the ending? ı want to watch my wolfs when they make little ones pregnant. I love your positions very much and a good ending will be awesome.
Wolf-Wolf animation is simple and enough.
And as global, your creatures are big now realy. I think you should a bit zoom out and use always the same size at animation so we can feel the sizes. I mean at every animation make breeder always same size at screen so we can feel the difference when breeder mate with different monsters...
Sry for my bad english. I hope you read those. I am very happy with animations and positions and now left only simple, easy to do but time consuming details..
Thx again!
DickwolfxBreeder animation is very odd looking.
ReplyDeleteThe DickwolfxDickwolf animation is a bit plain but it's not bad. I'm glad there's a m/m animation that made it in.
Dickwolf x breeder is no good. Her right leg would either dangle relaxed or would be tense and drawn in, not stuck midway as it is now. They way he holds her right arm is by far not enough to support the body weight. Breast bounce is weird and her pussy looks like it moves relative to her body.
ReplyDeleteDickwolf x dickwolf is well-drawn, but lacks artistic value. Both wolves look plain bored. There's no struggle, no show of dominance.
agreed, especially about the dickwolf x dickwolf animation. at the very least i'd like to see some facial expressions and a little bit of... fire, i guess? they look bored and the animation is simply boring despite the quality of the art. hopefully the breeder animation will be fixed, too. the posing just doesn't look right. the dickwolf's hold on the breeder's right arm makes no sense; he wouldn't be able to lift her up that way, as you said, at least not with her looking so stiff. it'd make much more sense for him to be holding her hands over her head, or gripping her around her waist, or something -- though the second one would obscure the belly bulge, so i'm not sure if that's the best course of action. her left arm also looks very short compared to her right and to the proportions of her body. and lol... that boob jiggle. yeah, everyone else has already addressed that, so i don't think i need to. but it's too much for the position and for the amount of force the wolf is using. maybe if her whole body was being ragdolled somewhat by his movements i would believe it, and actually that'd be awesome so i hope that's the direction that gets taken.
DeleteI agree with the two above, DickwolfxBreeder can definitely be improved, right now it just looks extremely awkward. Also the current lack of cum shots is making me sad, hoping it starts getting worked on soon.
ReplyDeleteBreeder seems to have an invisible chair to keep her legs in this position. I think it should be more "ragdoll"-style her body moves. Anyhow, thanks for an update.
ReplyDeleteOther than a few issues, the animations are quite welcome additions (and you delivered on your promise that male/male animations would be coming, good work there BS Team).
ReplyDeleteI have to agree that the circular breast bounce seems a bit odd on the BreederxDickwolf animation. I'm not saying there couldn't be any circular/side-to-side bouncing in addition to the standard up and down, but it seems like a bit TOO much given the position they're in. And while I don't think it's a major issue, I feel a bit more, well, fear or shock might be fitting for the breeder's expression. I love the belly bulge however.
With the DickwolfxDickwolf animation, I'm afraid I have to agree with the others saying that it seems too... gentle. When you compare it to the CatgirlxDickwolf animation, or even the BreederxDickwolf animation, where they seem to be getting a bit rough (but not harmful), I could almost imagine them talking to each other like "Hey, you okay there buddy? Tell me if I'm being too rough all right? Do you need a cushion to rest your knees on or something?". Which, while that's totally fine normally, I'm not sure if it's fitting for a Dickwolf.
The Female Elf idle is quite good, although the Male is a bit... lackluster when compared to the others, even the Dickwolf, whose knotted dog dong bounces up and down a bit. He sort of just stands there the whole time, slightly shifting but making no major movements.
These are just my opinions and observations, this is still your game and in the end you have the final say. And if I pointed out anything that you planned to fix anyways, then I apologize.
I agree with this.
DeleteNew animations really do luck fire in the eyes, which I appreciated in the previous ones. The emotions of surprise, pleasure and a bit fear you see on the breeder's face really made the whole scene awesome, actually the best in a whole game. Now it's more like she is not being humped by a giant werewolf but trying to remember what does she have to buy in a grocery.
ReplyDeleteI like the animations but like most of us I'd like to see the cum shots make a triumphant return.
ReplyDeleteagreeed!
DeleteAs for the animations, I like the quality of them, however, as well as agreeing that the PCxDickwolf boob spinning is more than a little laughable, both of the wolfs hands on her hands make the position impossible. Perhaps moving his left hand (closest to the screen) to her hip would help. Steering a dick into a vagina is hard enough without having any leverage at all!!
ReplyDeleteBut other than that loving the direction the game is going in, hoping that I can get some more income to maybe throw you a couple more bucks a month :)
Are we ever going to see a futa holstaurus?
ReplyDeleteAll things will be futa eventually. All things.....
DeleteEven the breeder, and the Butt Stallions, the houses and pens, the planet itself... nothing but futas, as far as the eye can see.
DeleteYou will literally drown in a sea of chicks with dicks.
i can't be the only one hoping that the futa butt stallion looks like dick butt: http://i.imgur.com/728GirQ.jpg?1
Deletei thought that the catgirl x dickwolf animation was going to be tweaked some? it still looks unfinished (the animation of the dickwolf's chest and feet, the lack of stomach bulge or visible penetration on the catgirl, etc.) and i would think that would get finalized before working on this other stuff. not that i'm really complaining! i like to see the new animations and i know that everything will be improved and finalized eventually; the game is still in its early stages, after all. but i'm wondering if this actually is the final version of the catgirl x dickwolf animation and i simply heard incorrectly?
ReplyDeleteI downloaded both versions (.exe and .swf) but the breeder/dickwolf animation is still the same. Am I doing something wrong?
ReplyDeletewell harista. i must say, i do not doubt the talennt of you orr your animator, however, i must saythat in the beggining i did like this game because it was different. now it simply resemboles people in cosply for the cat girls. i know many will enjoy this change, though i fearr that most of your orrginal audioence will not follow this game, if they have made it this far. unfortunately, the only orignality you have amintained with this, is that is a sex sim with things resembeling monsters. this will only last untills omeone else comes out with one. i dont really car eabout the gramer of this post, as this is my last post. enjoy the success.
ReplyDeleteIndeed, we loved that because it was really a Farm, with monsters and breeding...
DeleteNow anyone focuses on anthropomorpfhized beasts, futa, elves...
I loved when the wolf in WOLF shape mated, how it was beastial. And different.
I will continue my support, of course, as it is far too a big project to forget about this, but always in the fear of seeking its whole idea twisted and, maybe, in the hope of a future re-beastialityi-zation
Okay, question... how were the old catgirl models so much different than the current ones? If anything the gigantic fluffy paws made them look MORE like people in cat costumes.
DeleteIt's still a farm, it's just a BIGGER farm, with more monsters.
And people, please, the whole idea of changing them to be more anthropomorphic and adding in the Feral trait is to appeal to a wider audience, it's pretty assured you're going to get your bestial monsters again.
When I say different I mean in the sense of them not looking like people cosplaying catgirls. They've always looked like that, that hasn't changed at all.
DeleteTM93 thank you for bestowing your wisdom upon us
DeleteS'wat I do.
DeleteThe problem with the retort that "we're getting a feral trait, eventually so quit whining about it: you'll get it back!" is that, from an audience satisfaction point of view, it ought never have gone away in the first place. It was the bestial nature of most of the interactions that drew the greater majority of the original audience... so, if the feral/anthro change is made to help it appeal to a wider audience, but not exclude or disenchant the old, then Feral ought to still be and remain the -Default-, with the ability to acquire an 'Anthro' trait. Same eventual end result, and a whole lot less patron dissatisfaction...
DeleteIndeed, there's no conceivable reason why this would not have been the way to do it, nor any reasonable ground to think that it wouldn't be the first course for offering support for both preferences, unless the more bestial aspects of the game were being -deliberately- side-lined and shunted into a corner. Very visibly, and very clearly, they are; that they will still be supported, after a fashion, for some monsters, in the future, no ETA... is not what has upset so many commenters; it's the clear preference and importance drop that bestial content of all descriptions has received in the first place.
If they want to pitch steroid-bloated meat-men with affections to make them look vaguely like various creatures to the crowd that likes that, that's great! Make THAT the optional trait. The core of the game should retain the original flavour that it drew its first audience from, and that means bestial as default, with more humanoid and anthropomorphised forms as options.
If for no other reason than that the end result will be the same, but they'll have a heck of a lot less upset patrons making noise.
-Erica
Yo all you complainers, keep whining. Peeps still givin money, you don't like what's happening then stop paying. You wanna debate join a club
DeleteI guess I've never really elaborated upon this, but I do think that, yes, it might have been a better idea to go that way, perhaps.
DeleteBut I can still see the logic here. There are, presumably, a lot more people who are fine with Furry/Anthro characters having sex than flat out bestiality, so they made that the base look. (I can't actually speak for H-bomb on anything I say but I'm trying to put myself in his shoes)
That said, this isn't the worst way to go about giving everyone what they want still. We've been getting at least a creature in every month if not two, so I wouldn't imagine it being more than a few more months before all the base creatures are in and we start seeing the Feral and Neoteny and Futa and Albino variants that everyone wants, as we already have Catgirls, Dickwolves, and soon Elves and Demons out of the way, only leaving Butt Stallions, Harpies, and Holstauri.
I still fail to see how these changes remove the game's original "flavor" as people keep putting it. It was always a game about having sex with monsters, it's still a game about having sex with monsters. It's not like it got up and became a FPS or a Puzzle game without notice.
I keep getting a feeling of Genwunner syndrome from a lot of people here, where, if it's not the first iteration of the game, it's not the game still somehow. It's just got more stuff, different stuff, but in the end it'll still have YOUR stuff to enjoy. But this is a 3 man team, you have to give them some time to rework your stuff.
And to the anon above me, I'm trying to keep civil here, let's not be flat-out rude.
Well if it's not an FPS I'm out. H-bomb you duped me! And also there is a fine line between rude and frank... I like to think I walk that line every day
DeleteYou're right, TM, and H-bomb's recent post expanded upon much of what you say here, too.
DeleteI do often forget that we ought still be thinking of the game as alpha, and all that that entails... and it is a valid point that, if you're genuinely trying to pitch to ALL comers, that making the base-line default to the most mainstream/vanilla option set IS the surest way to do that, with all other extremes offered as extension and option.
So, realistically I retract the statement I made above about there being 'no conceivable reason'... If I were thinking of the game as a released product being patched, or as a beta near production finish, then I wouldn't accept that, but that's my fault and my own problem, in this matter; I need to remind myself that it still IS alpha, and that may often mean re-writes of things and approaching the same goal from new or different directions to find what works best.
So long as the end product is true to the original design goal and all of the less-than-mainstream material that first drew in so many is a clear and present option, with as much attention and representation available as the more vanilla content, then I'm more than happy to concede the point... and for now, in light of the post H-bomb made recently I'm content to take that promise on faith while the design process progresses.
-Erica
Do I have to use the debug code to see the new animations be cause I am just getting old animations for dickwolf x dickwolf and dickwolf x breeder
ReplyDeleteI just got 4.8 version and see new dickwolf x dickwolf animation but old dickwolf x breeder... Still searching for any info...
DeleteDickwolf X Dickwolf yaoi :3
ReplyDeleten_n i like n_n
Good job, congratulations for this great project
I have a few suggestions for game play mechanics that I think would help the game out.
ReplyDeleteAlright, lets just get this out there: Yes, I would rather see a game that will make me wanna fap :) I know there is mechanics and such to make more money, I see the system, it's simple. But honestly: All it leads to is more money?
What if when you have a higher level creature, they have more animations. For instance, lets take the dickwolf and catgirl.
The dickwolf and catgirl at the lowest level just do that doggystyle animation you have now. But after a certain stat level, Now the dickwolf fingers the cat girl.
Well, when the dickwolf fingers the cat girl, if the cat girl is at a higher level, the cat girl might squirt in her fucking animation with the dickwolf, giving you a chance to get cat girl squirt when you fuck her using a dickwolf that has the right stats to have him finger her.
This does two things: Gives the players a reward for getting higher level creatures. And two, adds another layer to the gameplay.
I think the stat up and down thing is an interesting, yet annoying feature. It's very random and in the end, you have to work in a way that uses some luck to get what you want. Maybe in a normal game, this would be a great idea, but this is a hentai game right? I kinda am not here to use my brain... I'm kinda here to get off? ha ha
so perhaps, instead of a stat up/down system to make it so you have to meticulously pick through stats to breed, why not make it so certain creatures give stat up's and NONE of them give stat downs. I understand that you can make it so the negatives are weaker than the positives and it will extend how much time a player plays the game, but it's less time for the player to fap due to the fact they must think more... Sounds crazy, I know :) But if I'm focusing on going to the breeder to look through choices, I'm kinda going down to a half chub already?
I'd rather realize that I need to have my dick wolf fuck a female elf enough to boost his dex so when he fucks the cat girl, he will possibly get the fingering animation. Like a skill.
To unlock the skill, you can add it to the bronze/silver/gold sell system. So it rewards you with more animation possibilities, not something internal that doesn't give me more things to fap to.
I think in the end, more things to fap to is important. And a simple system to allow more things to fap to would be more "fapper friendly" then having to use a chance based formula to get the right +/- to boost the stats which in the end is only used to gather up more money which yes, you could spend to get more creatures and such, but the old creatures remain stale...
Like, they don't even orgasm. The wolf and cat girl kinda just do the same several frames with no variations. She doesn't even cum. Can't really fap to it. But I know the animation is being fleshed out, so that takes time.
But I would say: put time into the loop animation and use the stat system to make it so players get rewarded for having higher stats by being able to see more variation in the animation, like I stated above. Orgasms, squirting, ahegao, things that make the animation "feel" alive, like you are contributing to their pleasure, which in turn will make it more pleasurable for the player.
I have alot more to say about game design in general, so I'll be around. :) But I feel, if you we're to implement what I have stated above, it would make this game a hentai icon, in a way super deep throat has been.
Well the stat system is being reworked, if I'm not mistaken... and while leveling skills for sex scenes is an interesting concept, it'd probably be a pain in the butt to program, I'd imagine. And what if you meet the prerequisites for several different "advanced positions" for a monster? Do you get to choose which one you use? I do think the sex scenes need refinement (as I stated above), don't get me wrong.
DeleteA pain in the butt to program, but fun to conceptualize :D So lets say in the game, there is a "code" that if creature A has a certain sex skill and has sex with a certain other creature that it's compatible with, you get an animation.
DeleteBasicaly, looking at the current game information, he is going in this direction with the emphasis on the animations being able to be easily relayered to have other skins or objects doing the same motion. So if this is the case, he will have a flow chart that shows what creatures can have sexually, and what they can be affected by. In that little bubble on the flow chart is an animation algorithm that they would then refine to ensure the animation works with each creature that will "fit" in the animation algorithm. Then boom, you relate the skins to the animation and code it so creature a + skill with creature b + skill = animation scene configuration.
I would be -SO- into writing that all up. I would get carried away
I... actually better see something of that calibur. Doesn't need to be exact, but at 10 grand an update, these guys better have bad ass game design and animation lined up. Show us why you deserve that cash :D I believe. So I figure... leave this creative idea right here in the open...
DeleteWhen do non-patron's get this update again?
ReplyDeletewhenever its dumped on swfchan
DeleteThe only thing I don't like about being a patron is the recruiting feature it has. I mean seriously 10 dollars each month just to get a cheat code and early access? You're competing with MMOs at that point. I believe a one time payment is more reasonable.
ReplyDeleteYou pay $1 for early access. And a one time payment would mean that they wouldn't be able to keep up with the goals they've set. As, while it's an impressive amount, a total of $11K split between 2 or 3 people isn't going to last very long, and they'd have to go back to their old jobs to keep paying rent, the time between updates and the quality of the updates would probably go down in quality.
DeleteIs this starting to compare with some MMO's in terms of how much people are paying a month for the Debug Codes (which aren't necessary in the slightest BTW)? Yes. But it's to ensure that they can keep making the game we've all come to know and love.
The average person yearly doesn't really go too far beyond $20k. So an 11k split should last them a long time. And that is per update.
DeleteSo basically... in my opinion, there should be HUGE amounts of changes. Awesome animation, deep game play and a feeling like everytime I wanna fap, it would be to this game. So far... kinda... iffy. But I wanted to give cash to a fellow game design/animator upstart because I believe in it.
All you people said is what benefits them. Seriously are you guys so deluded from the pillow talk after sucking them off?
DeleteI liked the old elfs more (just my opinion). Great game so far, im proud of beeing a patron.
ReplyDeletewhen the update will be, or as it is ready?
ReplyDeleteWow!, I was really excited about this Dickwolf x Dick Wolf, was waiting for this since they released the horse in past updates, will it be possible in the next have a Dickwolf X Butstallion, Dickwolf x Demon and Demon X Butstallion? of course ... all M / M, and I know that is going through something ... you know ... splendid success, but when you can go out an updated version for the public, non-patreon? after all we all know that there are people who can not afford to pay and stuff and accompanying praising and spreading the work they both liked, now being deprived of it, please await the answer greetings to the owner who is doing a wonderful job here: D
ReplyDeletehee how can i us alpha builf 4.7 ?
ReplyDeleteI think the first step is sober up
Deletewhat is sober up?
Deletegame link plz
ReplyDeletewow, that dickwolf x breeder is awesome
ReplyDeletemy only negativity i can think of is the fact that futas have same breeding % as other races even if u use catgirl on catgirl. couldnt they have raised it to 15-20???
ReplyDeletecan you finish the male x male scenes and add filling?
ReplyDeletei am having trouble with saving the game. When I go to load, the save file is nowhere to be found. This is on the exe version. Anyone know how to fix this?
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