Breeding Season is the unholy combination of a farming sim and a sex game. Breed a variety of sexy monsters together for sale to adventurous clients. Featuring Catgirls, Dickwolves, Harpies; you name it. Currently in early alpha.
Seconded. Since S-Purple is on the team, we didn't get to see alot dickgirls. I slowly begin to worry. I'll just assume it's due to you guys still having to revamp the base monster design. I hope. Some heads up on this particular topic would be nice, though.
A few little nit-picks; the upper torso of the female model seams a little too slender comparatively to her hips, although it could just be personal preference speaking there.
As for the male model, is that hair just a place holder? I feel that style makes him seam to feminine, unless that is what you where aiming for, and then by all means continue.
PS: Keep up the great work, all of the team current and future.
The males look faaar too feminine. They even share the same faces... I dislike the males wearing stockings. Male and female body shapes are a good starting point, though.
They have different males and such for different tastes. Obviously this is for people who enjoy feminine looking males, this obviously isn't your thing, but is to many others.
Remember, they're trying to appease everyone by adding a little of everything, everyone's always going to not like something that's implemented.
If elven boys are supposed to look just like (flat-chested) girls, then what's the point in adding elven boys in the first place - or even also adding futanari? Three kinds of elven girls, two of them dick-girls...? I don't get that logic.
This is not about having male elves looking as masculine as the new demons, but there should be more distinction between the elven boys and girls.
A very slight edit to the male elf face wouldn't ruin the characters, I honestly like the shape they chose to go with for the royal male elf from the couple you get visited by on what day 2 or 3. and give him a flatter chin, a little bit would go a long way with out messing with the rest of the design.
Can I just say how hilarious I find it that a month ago with the Dickwolves and Demons people were complaining there were too many buff/super masculine monsters, and now people are complaining the male Elves are too feminine?
mmm well it's not like these things don't happen by degrees, and the people dissatisfied with these preliminary new designs might not have been the ones who didn't like the bara beasts.
I agree, the female elves in-particularly are awesome the way they are, the male ones are great too. Just one thing I'm concerned of is the male elf's member, it might be nothing, just curious as to m-f interactions due to size of it & all.
it's flacid, I'm guessing by the size compared to the body, it's going to be atleast a good 8 inches erect. Although this is a magical game world filled with sexy creatures. So for all we know he could be hung like a horse while erect.
I would not mind... bigger breasts, just a bit. Oh man i cannot wait to see female dark skinned elf getting pounded by a albino demon... why am i broke now? why oh why? I would donate 1000 bucks...
Wide hips and huge breast seem to be everywhere now. You were talkign about more body types, but so far, there is only 1 body type present. Please, let at least elfs be thin with long legs.
Nit-picking isn't really contributing anything worthwhile, guys. But if you have a valid observation or concern let 'em rip. The game is meant to be tailored to the general masses, but if a specific aspect of one creature doesn't suit you then don't worry; there'll be plenty more creatures and one will be a good fit for you. Have faith, be patient, only two guys working on this, game is free, blah blah blah, the grass is always greener, never get a second chance to make a first impression, not meant to be then not meant to be, vapor lock is no joke, there are other fish in the sea, a stitch in time saves nine, my name is Bob Barker reminding you to have your pet spayed or nuetered, etc.
"Yuck. Not a fan. Faces are good, but what's with the stout looking elves and hips as bread as a door? And why are male leves wearing stockings? Is that some kind of gay elf joke?"
How are broad hips not a good thing? It's like you want skeletons...it's Breeding Season, not Reanimation Season.
I love how the reply function has a built in spell check and you still managed to fuck up your post. That takes talent.
He's not saying wide hips are bad, they just don't fit the monster type. When you think 'Elf' you think long, slender, lithe. Not short, breeding hips, bottom heavy.
Honestly, there's plenty of other monsters with huge hips that fit their descriptions. Elves are supposed to be taller and more slender than humans. This is basically the same shape as cat girl and the breeder. We have no tall willowy monsters, but instead of something new, we get a catgirl/breeder reskin.
Well unfortunately I'm done with this game now I really like it but with taking the cheat codes and infrequent public builds I have hit my limit. For those who are gonna say then just donate if you want it well I won't do that because 1. Hartista has a history of disappearing for months at one point many thought the game was dead and 2. why would i spend money on a game with no guarantee that it will be finished when I can use it to buy finished games. So thank you fot creating the game I had fun playing but this is goodbye.
just wait and come back later no reason to ignore the game if it does eventually get finished. Not saying you have to pay attention to it all the time, just check in every few months.
My thoughts; Overal awesome! However; the pink skincolor is weird, the rest of the colors seem good. Male stocking/gloves are also a bit odd. Also the penis seems somewhat small(ofc this is flacid so nothing I can say about erect) compared to the size of the female features(breasts and butt)
i adore these designs! the male elves are PERFECT, and the female elves are gorgeous too. love it!
to those who are complaining that the female elf is too curvy: uh, what? have you ever seen a real person before? her upper torso is incredibly thin, her boobs are an average size, and she has entirely average hips and legs. the harpies will likely be scrawny, as they were in their original design, so if you want to see skinny gals you'll be getting that. (at least i'm hoping this will stay the same! i'm all for body diversity in the monster designs, and i liked that the harpies had fairly boyish figures.) the catgirls are also quite thin. the fact is that if you want to see some super-thin ladies in your porn, that exists ALL over the internet, including within this very game. why are you freaking out when a couple of characters are introduced that aren't stick-skinny?
same with folks being grouchy about the more feminine-looking male elves. every other male character and monster in the game so far is big and buff, with the possible exception of the marquis, though even he has a six-pack and broad shoulders. if you want a male character that isn't slim and feminine, then... you already have that????? why not let S-Purple and H-Bomb introduce some variety for those who want it?
if anything i hope for even more diverse designs in the future! tall, lanky dudes (spider monsters? lizard men?) and short, fat ladies and -- i'm hoping -- perhaps a monster that's more androgynous, maybe one that could both impregnate and be impregnated without needing the "futa" trait. if i had the money i'd be throwing it at my screen to see some of this stuff happen, but for now i can only dream! :P
People watch those porn stars because they have appealing bodies. do the math because that's what the majority of people list after, Thick women are a very small niche in comparison these days.
where are you getting your "majority" from, and why are you relegating "thick" women into such a position that they are only attractive as a "small niche"? how about: fat women, and fat people in general, actually exist in quite significant number and want to see fat and chubby characters being represented as attractive, even in fictional settings -- and especially in games like this one where the tone is tongue-in-cheek and not quite as objectifying as so much porn can be! and how about: there are actually quite a lot of people who think fat is attractive, regardless of what you personally like and dislike.
having a token fat character is a start i guess, and i would argue that the holstaurus is not even fat, just slightly chubby. but i'm hearing the exclamation that because she's going to be in the game, that's the only "diverse" body type representation we need, end of story, and bring on the stick-skinny ladies! except actually, bodies aren't always either fat or skinny, one or the other; there are in-betweens, as you could MAYBE argue that the elf would be with her average-width hips, average-thick thighs, and average-size breasts. representation means having a lot of different body types, not just one chubby girl and then the rest all look the same (skinny, same body type) while all the dudes are the size of trucks. that's not how it works, yet that sounds like what you and others here are clamoring for, despite the fact that you can get that kind of content literally everywhere without demanding that this specific site have the same content as everywhere else.
consider that the majority, if indeed you're correct about there being a monolithic majority that agrees with you rather than the arguing and mixed group that i'm seeing here, does not necessarily ALWAYS have to be the party that gets catered to all the time
I fully agree with everything said ^here^. Now from what I can gather about the 'futa' & 'neoteny' variations, I believe both of the guys are working on those as we speak (along with everything else that needs doing), it just takes time. Go to S-Purple's tumblr if you become too impatient, don't take it out on here. Besides, there IS progress on 'diversity', don't base all the assumptions on the few you've seen thus far.
I love wide hips and curvy bodies but a good game needs some variation. It seems that wide hips are s-purples thing but I thin that he should create more varying bodies for different monsters and NPCs.
Must all the females have wide ass hips....seriously if they do loli creatures with this new art style and they have voluptuous shapes...that will just be ugly.
Hey, great work! I must say I'm loving these new designs. They're looking great. :D I'm especially digging these voluptuous elven women. It seems a little more natural too given some of the bigger male monsters they'll be fucking.
As for feedback, I do enjoy the femboy look for the male elves, but if you're not already planning on it, I also agree with the others that it would be nice to have some more traditionally boyish and masculine hair styles in the package too, if it's possible.
I do love the femboy look and the ultra masculine male monsters, but it would also be nice to have some slightly less extreme dudes somewhere along the line too. Sorry if that's assuming too much, since I know this is just one design and that you all are working very hard, but there's my .02 :)
And again thanks for the hard work on this, and bless this game's soul for including such satisfying, promising, and diverse bisexual content.
Like somebody mentioned before, I WANT and I NEED see the futa version!
I like both model, the only thing I don´t like are the hips of the female, so much big, I mean, I like big hips but I think on this case is a bit large with respect the body(maybe is intentional). On the male as people mention he looks a bit femenine, on my opinion the problem is the face, with a face not so similar to the female version both models will be perfect, but its just my opinion ^^.
As the four colors shown, I like all but the first, the pink one, look a little radioactive elves XD.
Frankly man, I have my preference but I'm sure that will come along in one of the other species you guys create. I like the big hips and I am not too heavily concerned about what male elves wear or if their faces are too feminine. I'm sure you'll be making more variations to this as it has been done before so I'm not going to beat a dead butt stallion.
My best suggestion to you is to continue your great work and don't let too many opinions sway whatever the hell you want to make.
Really disappointed in the female elves. Those color palettes all look VERY strange (what is that hideous purple? Pink nipples on grey skin? White on tan doesn't really go well together...) and the proportions are off (looks flat out have a triangle figure, not an hourglass figure which is abnormal for a fit girl let alone a fit elf). I would really consider either shrinking the bottom half of the elves or bringing the top half a little up to speed with the rest of their body. As for the color palettes, I'm not saying to scrap them or anything as maybe some people like them, but I really hope to see some more color palettes because it's a little worrying.
Also are they all gonna have those black eyes? Seems pretty weird.
I don't really have a meaningful opinion on the male elves since I'll be filling up the house with females/futas, but I'm certainly not *offended* by any of it. They look good to me, anyway.
Regarding the female elves and their hip/thigh size - I also have no problem with the thickness, but I do have to agree that we're racking up a lot of thick thighs so far in the new art.
Except monsters don't push out babies, they lay eggs. Their large hips aren't necessary, even if accuracy was the point of this game. Why don't you nitpick about monsters born from an egg having navels?
I'd wager that (the egg laying) is done for simplicity so that there's no gestation period to slow down gameplay. Even if that's not the case, you can be damn sure that laying an egg that hatches into a full-sized adult will require large hips.
I've always thought that female elves should look more like Harpies from S-Purple concepts rather than humans. Seriously, maybe you should do something with it.
Why do all the new female designs have big hips (bar the harpy)? I usually don't mind at all but some more variation on the body types would be good...
I've got a question regarding the patreon, what exactly constitutes a 'content update'? Is it every time they make any change at all, even minor, a monthly thing, a major content update(less than monthly) ect? It's.... kinda vague.
Okay, cool. Regarding what I saw on a past update... Paypal is really weird. On one hand, I can use paypal to physically buy giant horsecocks, yet you can't use it to buy digital horsecocks.
I really don't care if some people love wide hips. I really don't care if "pushing out babies" causes wide hips.
There was talk of body type diversity. Where is it? All I seen so far is huge boobs and even huger hips. Also, why do all elf girls have a tatoo and those weird eyes? I don't mind the eyes themslves, I would mind if they were to be the only choice.
So thin elves, and different eyes (including regular human-like)
I'm going to miss the harpies wings... they were the most beautiful / colorful aspect of the original monsters. I like S-Purples style, but there were some things in the original versions worth keeping.
harpies are thin and flat chested, I think most people complaining are looking for a "fit" body type instead. By fit I mean, flat stomach, decent size boobs and hips, then an overall thin frame (with no chubby thighs!)
Not to chime in with the majority, because I really do like S-purples style, and I have no problems with the elves. BUT what I think everyone is dancing around is that there is more than one body type even among humans. What the team needs to consider is defining a small sub-set of possible combinations of body type, and allowing those traits preferred by the Breeder (Player) to be dominated and controlled by the breeding process.
If the player prefers thin legs and large breasts then that will be the type of monster body type they will purchase in the shop, and breeding will then accentuate those traits. IE: Exclusively breeding large breasted futas with a large breasted elf slave girls, and you will get even larger breasts in the next generation. We shouldn't have our tastes dictated to us, we should be able to "Breed" in the traits we prefer.
This would require a lot of new programming, and the creation of a huge amount of new "sizes" of art that would all have to be able to be mixed and matched within a monster type automatically (without messing up the animations of course) ... But the results would be a whole new level of game play... you could even allow for the possibility of exporting and saving the best of your best to be imported as base stock for a later game. Internet BS competitions for the most beautiful monster, sexiest cat, sluttiest elf... Etc. could be sponsored ... It opens up a whole world of new possibilities. It's just a ton of work and H-bomb / S-Purple would probably need a good deal of help to pull it off.
agreed, I wasn't talking about the next update... I meant way down the road. I just think it's probably the easiest solution to a difficult situation... you're never going to please everyone, we all know that. But if you can have 6 different hair styles for a Catgirl, why not 6 different breast sizes, or hip sizes, or cock sizes. Lets face it not everyone like pear shaped women ... so how do you cater to the majority? Give them choice.
Please make the thighs/hips smaller... It looks so out of balance with the rest of the body and frankly unappealing. I don't think it's bias to say many people this day and age prefer smaller females, Add some body variation if you really are set on this body type. Include breast size variation as well.
Studies done on body preferences tend to highlight hourglass and pear(big hips/butt, smaller torso) as the most desirable, with an aversion to scary skinny or obese and a general trend for 'average' proportions. In an Australian survey, for instance, they saw bodies like Marilyn Monroe's(size 14, which the elves sorta resemble) the most attractive. Another found that girls with waists around 30" paired with significantly wider hips(10"+) were rated the most desired. Averages are that way for a reason; they tend to be the most prevalent and most desired.
omg guys, there are other games and other artists out there, so if this isn't exactly just slim/fat/whatever enough for your exacting tastes, you know what to do and where to go.
I agree that the ratio needs to be balanced. The bottom half of that body does not match the top half. One half needs to be at the very least tweaked so that they at least don't completely clash.
Going to have to agree with all the posts here. I dont see much diversity in these body types, they all have "mature" body types, excluding the harpy. As far as WHY people think they look mature, its not the boobs and hips as much, its those massive thunder thighs! They give the illusion of big hips, when its actually just the legs are fucking massive. And by massive, I mean fucking thicker than her midsection. People keep bringing in "studies" of women body type preferences (which is annoying since this is a fantasy game), and as much as its true guys prefer big boobs, thin midsections and big hips, that says nothing about the legs. The preference for legs is much sleeker, and the whole reason high heels were invented/worn.
In all honesty, this game does kinda have an interesting universe to explore. This is one of the few H games where I find myself reading every scrap of dialogue.
I'm kind of liking the new zaftig elves though. They only argument I can possibly see against is possibly to differentiate them more from the Breeder and the Holstarus designs.
I am actually starting to become dejected that all the females in the game are going to be super wide hipped. I am not saying that there shouldn't be wide hipped female creatures/monsters/People. I am just saying that all the new monster designs thus far have been from what i saw. As a comment just above said, elves are generally associated with being tall and slender. These are (the females) are anything but that. I will likely drop my support as i am not interested in heavy/fat looking females. I don't care if they have a 20 inch waist, if they have 50 inch hips they look like they have a horrible bone disorder or that they are quite chunky to even the thought of straight fat. Either way, not something i associate with elves at the least, and hopefully not every other creature drawn for this game, as i will probably lose interest and move on. Give the people supporting your project who like the thin, petite, narrow hipped girls some love if you could please.
The thing that some people seem to forget is the PERSPECTIVE they're in.
Face it: the females' thighs are each almost 10 inches broad! (and I mean broad, measured one-dimensional) If you like that, fine, but the real problem is the waist-thigh combination. So just 'straightening' out the extreme hourglass would probably satisfy both sides, just a slight increase of waist and some less hips.
But of course, there will be some new monster types in the (not so) distant future, so who knows… ;-)
That is not what i meant at all in my above post about them looking fat. To me these female elves look like they porked out something bad. I don't want to see a stretching of the hourglass. I would rather he took the male elf, made the chest less broad, made a skinnier waist, and tacked on some DFC A cup breasts (B tops). Like 20 inch waist and 25 inch hips. I understand I may like that abnormally thin look and others might not. Just remember these are elves not Holstarus. They are not supposed to have ginormous breasts and hips. They are supposed to be slender even by a thin human's standard. At least that is the general consensus of most other games/movies/comics i have seen.
I like the elves' bodies overall, though the females could be a bit more slender. My biggest issue is the lack of any differences between the males' and females' faces. I think that if you slightly planed the male chin to give it just a hint of masculinity it would help. Keep the hair the same for both. My visualization for the male elves' faces is more towards a "David Bowie on the Ziggy Stardust cover" sorta look.
I notice this has been mentioned in the previous comments, but I
I looked back at the character art for the other 'monsters' and noticed they all look like the same exact body type excluding the harpy and (not entirely) Holstaurus. It feels like too much swapping of stockings, accessories, and tails instead of having the body types have more variety.
So why bother adding more 'monsters' if they are all going to have the same build? Why bother adding any more if they are all so human in the first place?
Sure having a few human-like creatures is fine, but what happened to trying to have variety? I was drawn to this game because of how different it was, but now it all feels so 'samey' and just like the majority of what's already out there.
The art is great, don't get me wrong, I really like the look and colors and overall style. I just think, for a game that focuses on variation, it's lacking variety in a place it shouldn't.
Oh, another thing, is it possible to add more color variation than is shown? I like the addition of the purple and drow variants, but it would be awesome if you had chocolate-hued ones too, like the darkest available skintone in the current iteration for harpies, futa catgirls and elves(which is my personal fave)
Hmm somehow I don't really like the elves. Most of the faces look bored rather than naughty and the Male elves look too effeminate. I know male elves are a bit on the girly side but I don't really think it's ok just to go with the same faces. The face structure just makes em look like futas.
- make the elf females slimmer (loose those big hips).
- have stockings/gloves be variable, in color and in it being/not being there (monster dress up? lol) Clothes really shouldn't be a fixed part of a "monster". Also, bring back the bound hands on the back pose.
The male elves look so girly. Honestly they look like hermaphrodites and the chicks seem a bit chunky, but I guess it does not really matter. Give the males a boner however so they look like they could fit in with the rest of the fuck monsters.
Maybe someone is paying for wide hips on every woman in this game. Sure i like my elves thin, but, still like them that way. If you are going to stick with the effiminate elf boy maybe just turn him into fem-boy, so people who wants m/m will be happy? But to be honnest i dont really mind, because im more after futa elf girl
what about my precious futanari's?
ReplyDeleteSeconded. Since S-Purple is on the team, we didn't get to see alot dickgirls. I slowly begin to worry. I'll just assume it's due to you guys still having to revamp the base monster design. I hope. Some heads up on this particular topic would be nice, though.
DeleteFuta Catgirl idle animation will actually be in tomorrow's update.
DeleteGod bless you.
DeleteAs always, you manage to please ^^ thank you. And now I am hyped. *glares at clock* will it be tomorrow, soon?
DeleteYou are a king Hartista!!!
DeleteHey hartista,
ReplyDeleteI really love the way these elves look, when will they be added?
Any Male/male animations coming in the following updates?
Looking great so far!
ReplyDeleteA few little nit-picks; the upper torso of the female model seams a little too slender comparatively to her hips, although it could just be personal preference speaking there.
As for the male model, is that hair just a place holder? I feel that style makes him seam to feminine, unless that is what you where aiming for, and then by all means continue.
PS: Keep up the great work, all of the team current and future.
that was my first impression on the female models too
DeleteThe males look faaar too feminine. They even share the same faces... I dislike the males wearing stockings.
ReplyDeleteMale and female body shapes are a good starting point, though.
Thanks for sharing those drafts for feedback!
You say that like it's a bad thing.
DeleteFem-elves all the way!
^this, the male elves are perfect.
DeleteThey have different males and such for different tastes. Obviously this is for people who enjoy feminine looking males, this obviously isn't your thing, but is to many others.
Remember, they're trying to appease everyone by adding a little of everything, everyone's always going to not like something that's implemented.
If elven boys are supposed to look just like (flat-chested) girls, then what's the point in adding elven boys in the first place - or even also adding futanari? Three kinds of elven girls, two of them dick-girls...? I don't get that logic.
DeleteThis is not about having male elves looking as masculine as the new demons, but there should be more distinction between the elven boys and girls.
A very slight edit to the male elf face wouldn't ruin the characters, I honestly like the shape they chose to go with for the royal male elf from the couple you get visited by on what day 2 or 3. and give him a flatter chin, a little bit would go a long way with out messing with the rest of the design.
DeleteCan I just say how hilarious I find it that a month ago with the Dickwolves and Demons people were complaining there were too many buff/super masculine monsters, and now people are complaining the male Elves are too feminine?
Deletemmm well it's not like these things don't happen by degrees, and the people dissatisfied with these preliminary new designs might not have been the ones who didn't like the bara beasts.
DeleteIt's most likely the people who DID like the bara beasts bitching about the feminine males.
DeleteSeriously, they're great, if it's not your thing, it's not your thing, there's plenty of other monsters for you guys, why ruin what other people like?
Don't listen to 'em S-purple, you done did good. Those male elves are fucking fantastic! Can't wait till they're implemented.
ReplyDeleteI agree, the female elves in-particularly are awesome the way they are, the male ones are great too. Just one thing I'm concerned of is the male elf's member, it might be nothing, just curious as to m-f interactions due to size of it & all.
DeleteYeah. the male elf's package could be a bit bigger, it is kinda tiny.
Deleteit's flacid, I'm guessing by the size compared to the body, it's going to be atleast a good 8 inches erect. Although this is a magical game world filled with sexy creatures. So for all we know he could be hung like a horse while erect.
DeleteFemale elves have some rather wide/fat legs.
ReplyDeletewould suggest slimming them down to be more like the male legs.
I would not mind... bigger breasts, just a bit. Oh man i cannot wait to see female dark skinned elf getting pounded by a albino demon... why am i broke now? why oh why? I would donate 1000 bucks...
ReplyDeleteSeconded. At least to even out those hips... It just doesn't fit.
DeleteCan at least something be thin?
ReplyDeleteWide hips and huge breast seem to be everywhere now. You were talkign about more body types, but so far, there is only 1 body type present.
Please, let at least elfs be thin with long legs.
And big nipples. If it's not at least 40% nipple, it's not in the game.
DeleteAgreed.
DeleteNit-picking isn't really contributing anything worthwhile, guys. But if you have a valid observation or concern let 'em rip. The game is meant to be tailored to the general masses, but if a specific aspect of one creature doesn't suit you then don't worry; there'll be plenty more creatures and one will be a good fit for you. Have faith, be patient, only two guys working on this, game is free, blah blah blah, the grass is always greener, never get a second chance to make a first impression, not meant to be then not meant to be, vapor lock is no joke, there are other fish in the sea, a stitch in time saves nine, my name is Bob Barker reminding you to have your pet spayed or nuetered, etc.
ReplyDeleteExcept every monster has big hips and large nipples compared to breast size. So if you're not into one of those you're out of luck.
DeleteYuck.
ReplyDeleteNot a fan. Faces are good, but what's with the stout looking elves and hips as bread as a door?
And why are male leves wearing stockings? Is that some kind of gay elf joke?
"Yuck. Not a fan. Faces are good, but what's with the stout looking elves and hips as bread as a door? And why are male leves wearing stockings? Is that some kind of gay elf joke?"
DeleteHow are broad hips not a good thing? It's like you want skeletons...it's Breeding Season, not Reanimation Season.
I love how the reply function has a built in spell check and you still managed to fuck up your post. That takes talent.
He's not saying wide hips are bad, they just don't fit the monster type. When you think 'Elf' you think long, slender, lithe. Not short, breeding hips, bottom heavy.
DeleteNah, when I think "elf" I think attractive human with pointed ears. That's all an elf has to have. The big hip size is just icing on the cake.
DeleteHonestly, there's plenty of other monsters with huge hips that fit their descriptions. Elves are supposed to be taller and more slender than humans. This is basically the same shape as cat girl and the breeder. We have no tall willowy monsters, but instead of something new, we get a catgirl/breeder reskin.
DeleteWell unfortunately I'm done with this game now I really like it but with taking the cheat codes and infrequent public builds I have hit my limit. For those who are gonna say then just donate if you want it well I won't do that because 1. Hartista has a history of disappearing for months at one point many thought the game was dead and 2. why would i spend money on a game with no guarantee that it will be finished when I can use it to buy finished games. So thank you fot creating the game I had fun playing but this is goodbye.
ReplyDeletejust wait and come back later no reason to ignore the game if it does eventually get finished. Not saying you have to pay attention to it all the time, just check in every few months.
DeleteMy thoughts; Overal awesome! However; the pink skincolor is weird, the rest of the colors seem good. Male stocking/gloves are also a bit odd. Also the penis seems somewhat small(ofc this is flacid so nothing I can say about erect) compared to the size of the female features(breasts and butt)
ReplyDeletei adore these designs! the male elves are PERFECT, and the female elves are gorgeous too. love it!
ReplyDeleteto those who are complaining that the female elf is too curvy: uh, what? have you ever seen a real person before? her upper torso is incredibly thin, her boobs are an average size, and she has entirely average hips and legs. the harpies will likely be scrawny, as they were in their original design, so if you want to see skinny gals you'll be getting that. (at least i'm hoping this will stay the same! i'm all for body diversity in the monster designs, and i liked that the harpies had fairly boyish figures.) the catgirls are also quite thin. the fact is that if you want to see some super-thin ladies in your porn, that exists ALL over the internet, including within this very game. why are you freaking out when a couple of characters are introduced that aren't stick-skinny?
same with folks being grouchy about the more feminine-looking male elves. every other male character and monster in the game so far is big and buff, with the possible exception of the marquis, though even he has a six-pack and broad shoulders. if you want a male character that isn't slim and feminine, then... you already have that????? why not let S-Purple and H-Bomb introduce some variety for those who want it?
if anything i hope for even more diverse designs in the future! tall, lanky dudes (spider monsters? lizard men?) and short, fat ladies and -- i'm hoping -- perhaps a monster that's more androgynous, maybe one that could both impregnate and be impregnated without needing the "futa" trait. if i had the money i'd be throwing it at my screen to see some of this stuff happen, but for now i can only dream! :P
People watch those porn stars because they have appealing bodies. do the math because that's what the majority of people list after, Thick women are a very small niche in comparison these days.
DeleteLust not list.
Deletewhere are you getting your "majority" from, and why are you relegating "thick" women into such a position that they are only attractive as a "small niche"? how about: fat women, and fat people in general, actually exist in quite significant number and want to see fat and chubby characters being represented as attractive, even in fictional settings -- and especially in games like this one where the tone is tongue-in-cheek and not quite as objectifying as so much porn can be! and how about: there are actually quite a lot of people who think fat is attractive, regardless of what you personally like and dislike.
Deletehaving a token fat character is a start i guess, and i would argue that the holstaurus is not even fat, just slightly chubby. but i'm hearing the exclamation that because she's going to be in the game, that's the only "diverse" body type representation we need, end of story, and bring on the stick-skinny ladies! except actually, bodies aren't always either fat or skinny, one or the other; there are in-betweens, as you could MAYBE argue that the elf would be with her average-width hips, average-thick thighs, and average-size breasts. representation means having a lot of different body types, not just one chubby girl and then the rest all look the same (skinny, same body type) while all the dudes are the size of trucks. that's not how it works, yet that sounds like what you and others here are clamoring for, despite the fact that you can get that kind of content literally everywhere without demanding that this specific site have the same content as everywhere else.
consider that the majority, if indeed you're correct about there being a monolithic majority that agrees with you rather than the arguing and mixed group that i'm seeing here, does not necessarily ALWAYS have to be the party that gets catered to all the time
I fully agree with everything said ^here^. Now from what I can gather about the 'futa' & 'neoteny' variations, I believe both of the guys are working on those as we speak (along with everything else that needs doing), it just takes time. Go to S-Purple's tumblr if you become too impatient, don't take it out on here. Besides, there IS progress on 'diversity', don't base all the assumptions on the few you've seen thus far.
DeleteI love wide hips and curvy bodies but a good game needs some variation. It seems that wide hips are s-purples thing but I thin that he should create more varying bodies for different monsters and NPCs.
ReplyDeleteSecond.
DeleteMust all the females have wide ass hips....seriously if they do loli creatures with this new art style and they have voluptuous shapes...that will just be ugly.
ReplyDeleteHey, great work! I must say I'm loving these new designs. They're looking great. :D I'm especially digging these voluptuous elven women. It seems a little more natural too given some of the bigger male monsters they'll be fucking.
ReplyDeleteAs for feedback, I do enjoy the femboy look for the male elves, but if you're not already planning on it, I also agree with the others that it would be nice to have some more traditionally boyish and masculine hair styles in the package too, if it's possible.
I do love the femboy look and the ultra masculine male monsters, but it would also be nice to have some slightly less extreme dudes somewhere along the line too. Sorry if that's assuming too much, since I know this is just one design and that you all are working very hard, but there's my .02 :)
And again thanks for the hard work on this, and bless this game's soul for including such satisfying, promising, and diverse bisexual content.
Like somebody mentioned before, I WANT and I NEED see the futa version!
ReplyDeleteI like both model, the only thing I don´t like are the hips of the female, so much big, I mean, I like big hips but I think on this case is a bit large with respect the body(maybe is intentional). On the male as people mention he looks a bit femenine, on my opinion the problem is the face, with a face not so similar to the female version both models will be perfect, but its just my opinion ^^.
As the four colors shown, I like all but the first, the pink one, look a little radioactive elves XD.
Frankly man, I have my preference but I'm sure that will come along in one of the other species you guys create. I like the big hips and I am not too heavily concerned about what male elves wear or if their faces are too feminine. I'm sure you'll be making more variations to this as it has been done before so I'm not going to beat a dead butt stallion.
ReplyDeleteMy best suggestion to you is to continue your great work and don't let too many opinions sway whatever the hell you want to make.
The easiest thing to do would be to copy the blood elves from wow , everyone loves them
ReplyDeletei will then name every single elf i get either "legolas," "sephiroth," or "goku," no exceptions
Deleteif we're going to copy wow fads we might as well do it all the way
Really disappointed in the female elves. Those color palettes all look VERY strange (what is that hideous purple? Pink nipples on grey skin? White on tan doesn't really go well together...) and the proportions are off (looks flat out have a triangle figure, not an hourglass figure which is abnormal for a fit girl let alone a fit elf). I would really consider either shrinking the bottom half of the elves or bringing the top half a little up to speed with the rest of their body. As for the color palettes, I'm not saying to scrap them or anything as maybe some people like them, but I really hope to see some more color palettes because it's a little worrying.
ReplyDeleteAlso are they all gonna have those black eyes? Seems pretty weird.
The purple skin/white hair palette reminds me of Manaworld's Dark Elf Syx
DeleteThey are great both male and female ! Just the color of the nipples will be a problem .
ReplyDeleteI love it!
ReplyDeleteI don't really have a meaningful opinion on the male elves since I'll be filling up the house with females/futas, but I'm certainly not *offended* by any of it. They look good to me, anyway.
ReplyDeleteRegarding the female elves and their hip/thigh size - I also have no problem with the thickness, but I do have to agree that we're racking up a lot of thick thighs so far in the new art.
Keep the hips!!!
ReplyDeleteLooks great!
ReplyDeleteAlso needs more futa. >:D
Looks great! I love the skin colors. You can breed free range Drow.
ReplyDeleteAlways with the big hips and nipples. Why does everything have variety except for these two aspects?
ReplyDeleteI agree the hips/legs are need to change... Just having a small harpy isn't going to cut it. Leave the fat body types to the cow.
DeleteThere is no "fat body type" in the game...yet. The elves aren't fat & the catgirls aren't fat.
DeleteExcept monsters don't push out babies, they lay eggs. Their large hips aren't necessary, even if accuracy was the point of this game. Why don't you nitpick about monsters born from an egg having navels?
DeleteDunno why it posted this here, was meant for a comment below.
DeleteI'd wager that (the egg laying) is done for simplicity so that there's no gestation period to slow down gameplay. Even if that's not the case, you can be damn sure that laying an egg that hatches into a full-sized adult will require large hips.
DeleteOh very nice, I'm loving those male elves. They're adorable.
ReplyDeleteI've always thought that female elves should look more like Harpies from S-Purple concepts rather than humans. Seriously, maybe you should do something with it.
ReplyDeleteWhy do all the new female designs have big hips (bar the harpy)? I usually don't mind at all but some more variation on the body types would be good...
ReplyDeleteUm... what's a logical, real fact doin' in this fantasy game discussion?
DeleteI agree its quite unappealing, the new NPCs have ridiculous sized hips and legs...
Deletejust asking the elf slaver guy´s wife wasant a futa?
ReplyDeletehi
ReplyDeleteso every species have his hairs but after mating they can have mixed possibilities?
I wish that there will have some female elf with small tits someday
ReplyDeleteI wish that there will be some female elves with big tits someday.
DeleteAre you planning neoteny trait for males too?
ReplyDeleteI've got a question regarding the patreon, what exactly constitutes a 'content update'? Is it every time they make any change at all, even minor, a monthly thing, a major content update(less than monthly) ect? It's.... kinda vague.
ReplyDeleteOnce a month. That is if you mean when it charges money.
DeleteYeah, to clarify you are charged once a month, regardless of how many updates I release granted I release at least one.
DeleteThat said, my intention is two updates a month.
Okay, cool. Regarding what I saw on a past update... Paypal is really weird. On one hand, I can use paypal to physically buy giant horsecocks, yet you can't use it to buy digital horsecocks.
DeleteWTF paypal.
paypal has issues apparently
DeleteI really don't care if some people love wide hips. I really don't care if "pushing out babies" causes wide hips.
ReplyDeleteThere was talk of body type diversity. Where is it? All I seen so far is huge boobs and even huger hips. Also, why do all elf girls have a tatoo and those weird eyes? I don't mind the eyes themslves, I would mind if they were to be the only choice.
So thin elves, and different eyes (including regular human-like)
Haven't seen the harpies yet I take it?
DeleteI'm going to miss the harpies wings... they were the most beautiful / colorful aspect of the original monsters. I like S-Purples style, but there were some things in the original versions worth keeping.
Deleteharpies are thin and flat chested, I think most people complaining are looking for a "fit" body type instead. By fit I mean, flat stomach, decent size boobs and hips, then an overall thin frame (with no chubby thighs!)
DeleteWhere do you see huge boobs? I've seen a distinct lack of it. Seems like thighs always stealin' all the nutrition so far.
DeleteNearly every monster has huge boobs compared to their bodies. And every monster has huge nipples compared to their breasts.
DeleteNot to chime in with the majority, because I really do like S-purples style, and I have no problems with the elves. BUT what I think everyone is dancing around is that there is more than one body type even among humans. What the team needs to consider is defining a small sub-set of possible combinations of body type, and allowing those traits preferred by the Breeder (Player) to be dominated and controlled by the breeding process.
ReplyDeleteIf the player prefers thin legs and large breasts then that will be the type of monster body type they will purchase in the shop, and breeding will then accentuate those traits. IE: Exclusively breeding large breasted futas with a large breasted elf slave girls, and you will get even larger breasts in the next generation. We shouldn't have our tastes dictated to us, we should be able to "Breed" in the traits we prefer.
This would require a lot of new programming, and the creation of a huge amount of new "sizes" of art that would all have to be able to be mixed and matched within a monster type automatically (without messing up the animations of course) ... But the results would be a whole new level of game play... you could even allow for the possibility of exporting and saving the best of your best to be imported as base stock for a later game. Internet BS competitions for the most beautiful monster, sexiest cat, sluttiest elf... Etc. could be sponsored ... It opens up a whole world of new possibilities. It's just a ton of work and H-bomb / S-Purple would probably need a good deal of help to pull it off.
lets try to at least get all the animations and new art in first, yea?
Deleteagreed, I wasn't talking about the next update... I meant way down the road. I just think it's probably the easiest solution to a difficult situation... you're never going to please everyone, we all know that. But if you can have 6 different hair styles for a Catgirl, why not 6 different breast sizes, or hip sizes, or cock sizes. Lets face it not everyone like pear shaped women ... so how do you cater to the majority? Give them choice.
DeleteJust an opinion toward a future direction.
Please make the thighs/hips smaller... It looks so out of balance with the rest of the body and frankly unappealing. I don't think it's bias to say many people this day and age prefer smaller females, Add some body variation if you really are set on this body type. Include breast size variation as well.
ReplyDelete"i don't think it's biased to say many people this day and age prefer smaller females"
Deletehow is that not biased? even if it's true that's... actually fundamentally biased and prejudiced?
It is bias, stop trying to sugar coat it.
DeleteStudies done on body preferences tend to highlight hourglass and pear(big hips/butt, smaller torso) as the most desirable, with an aversion to scary skinny or obese and a general trend for 'average' proportions.
In an Australian survey, for instance, they saw bodies like Marilyn Monroe's(size 14, which the elves sorta resemble) the most attractive. Another found that girls with waists around 30" paired with significantly wider hips(10"+) were rated the most desired.
Averages are that way for a reason; they tend to be the most prevalent and most desired.
omg guys, there are other games and other artists out there, so if this isn't exactly just slim/fat/whatever enough for your exacting tastes, you know what to do and where to go.
DeleteIf you want stick girls, you can always open paint and draw some yourself.
DeleteWow the chubby chasers on this site sure are touchy... admit it you guys those are thunder thighs.
DeleteI agree that the ratio needs to be balanced. The bottom half of that body does not match the top half. One half needs to be at the very least tweaked so that they at least don't completely clash.
DeleteAh, diversity! Can't have a flame war without it!
ReplyDeleteGoing to have to agree with all the posts here. I dont see much diversity in these body types, they all have "mature" body types, excluding the harpy.
ReplyDeleteAs far as WHY people think they look mature, its not the boobs and hips as much, its those massive thunder thighs! They give the illusion of big hips, when its actually just the legs are fucking massive. And by massive, I mean fucking thicker than her midsection. People keep bringing in "studies" of women body type preferences (which is annoying since this is a fantasy game), and as much as its true guys prefer big boobs, thin midsections and big hips, that says nothing about the legs. The preference for legs is much sleeker, and the whole reason high heels were invented/worn.
why the hell are there stockings on dudes?
ReplyDeleteBecause it's great?
DeleteKeeps their calves warm?
DeleteMakes them look cuter?
DeleteBecause elves in this game voluntarily subject themselves to being humiliated for kicks.
Deletefair enough guys.....Guess it doesn't matter, I am gona just have all females anyway.
DeleteIn all honesty, this game does kinda have an interesting universe to explore. This is one of the few H games where I find myself reading every scrap of dialogue.
DeleteNeeds more male/male animations to go with these male elves.
ReplyDeleteThese elven designs are pretty greap, especially liking the males. I'm looking forward to seeing the other hair designs for him.
ReplyDeleteBottom elf elf girl hair...looks oddly familiar.
ReplyDeleteIs that supposed to be a reference?
Looking great :p
ReplyDeleteLove the Elves designs, they're definitely not stout or anything like that and the faces are excellent.
ReplyDeleteSo about that update...
ReplyDeleteMight be out in a few hours?
DeleteLet's hope!
DeleteTo clarify: The update will be for patrons and it'll be up in about six or seven hours.
DeleteNon-patrons will see their next update on the 7th.
Thanks for the update, Hbomb!
ReplyDeleteWoo those male elves are spot on.
ReplyDeleteThe female elves however, urgh. Wide hips are nice but elves are usually the go-to race for lithe slender bodies.
I'm kind of liking the new zaftig elves though. They only argument I can possibly see against is possibly to differentiate them more from the Breeder and the Holstarus designs.
ReplyDeleteI am actually starting to become dejected that all the females in the game are going to be super wide hipped. I am not saying that there shouldn't be wide hipped female creatures/monsters/People. I am just saying that all the new monster designs thus far have been from what i saw. As a comment just above said, elves are generally associated with being tall and slender. These are (the females) are anything but that. I will likely drop my support as i am not interested in heavy/fat looking females. I don't care if they have a 20 inch waist, if they have 50 inch hips they look like they have a horrible bone disorder or that they are quite chunky to even the thought of straight fat. Either way, not something i associate with elves at the least, and hopefully not every other creature drawn for this game, as i will probably lose interest and move on. Give the people supporting your project who like the thin, petite, narrow hipped girls some love if you could please.
ReplyDeleteThose males elves mang, all of my want.
ReplyDeleteThe thing that some people seem to forget is the PERSPECTIVE they're in.
ReplyDeleteFace it: the females' thighs are each almost 10 inches broad! (and I mean broad, measured one-dimensional)
If you like that, fine, but the real problem is the waist-thigh combination. So just 'straightening' out the extreme hourglass would probably satisfy both sides, just a slight increase of waist and some less hips.
But of course, there will be some new monster types in the (not so) distant future, so who knows… ;-)
That is not what i meant at all in my above post about them looking fat. To me these female elves look like they porked out something bad. I don't want to see a stretching of the hourglass. I would rather he took the male elf, made the chest less broad, made a skinnier waist, and tacked on some DFC A cup breasts (B tops). Like 20 inch waist and 25 inch hips. I understand I may like that abnormally thin look and others might not. Just remember these are elves not Holstarus. They are not supposed to have ginormous breasts and hips. They are supposed to be slender even by a thin human's standard. At least that is the general consensus of most other games/movies/comics i have seen.
DeleteI like the elves' bodies overall, though the females could be a bit more slender. My biggest issue is the lack of any differences between the males' and females' faces. I think that if you slightly planed the male chin to give it just a hint of masculinity it would help. Keep the hair the same for both. My visualization for the male elves' faces is more towards a "David Bowie on the Ziggy Stardust cover" sorta look.
ReplyDeleteor rather, either the Aladdin Sane or Space Oddity Covers. Both show a very good level of androgyny.
DeleteI notice this has been mentioned in the previous comments, but I
ReplyDeleteI looked back at the character art for the other 'monsters' and noticed they all look like the same exact body type excluding the harpy and (not entirely) Holstaurus. It feels like too much swapping of stockings, accessories, and tails instead of having the body types have more variety.
So why bother adding more 'monsters' if they are all going to have the same build? Why bother adding any more if they are all so human in the first place?
Sure having a few human-like creatures is fine, but what happened to trying to have variety? I was drawn to this game because of how different it was, but now it all feels so 'samey' and just like the majority of what's already out there.
The art is great, don't get me wrong, I really like the look and colors and overall style. I just think, for a game that focuses on variation, it's lacking variety in a place it shouldn't.
Is it just me or big tits and elves don't add up?
ReplyDeleteaverage tits =/= big tits
DeleteLearn to differentiate between quantities before trying to add anything...
The elf's tits are average for the game...or did you seriously think I mean average in a real-world setting? And I'm the one with head problems? lol
DeleteWow, those male elves are perfect. I can't wait for the next update.
ReplyDeleteNice ones!
ReplyDeleteI'd prefer more round titties though, but those are quite lusty, too.
Keep it up!
Oh, another thing, is it possible to add more color variation than is shown?
ReplyDeleteI like the addition of the purple and drow variants, but it would be awesome if you had chocolate-hued ones too, like the darkest available skintone in the current iteration for harpies, futa catgirls and elves(which is my personal fave)
Hmm somehow I don't really like the elves. Most of the faces look bored rather than naughty and the Male elves look too effeminate. I know male elves are a bit on the girly side but I don't really think it's ok just to go with the same faces. The face structure just makes em look like futas.
ReplyDeleteMy suggestion for the elves:
ReplyDelete- make the elf females slimmer (loose those big hips).
- have stockings/gloves be variable, in color and in it being/not being there (monster dress up? lol) Clothes really shouldn't be a fixed part of a "monster". Also, bring back the bound hands on the back pose.
The male elves look so girly. Honestly they look like hermaphrodites and the chicks seem a bit chunky, but I guess it does not really matter. Give the males a boner however so they look like they could fit in with the rest of the fuck monsters.
ReplyDeleteThese elf designs are fantastic (especially the males), keep it up s-purple!
ReplyDeleteMaybe someone is paying for wide hips on every woman in this game.
ReplyDeleteSure i like my elves thin, but, still like them that way.
If you are going to stick with the effiminate elf boy maybe just turn him into fem-boy, so people who wants m/m will be happy?
But to be honnest i dont really mind, because im more after futa elf girl