Saturday, May 14, 2016

Art Update



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  1. Wow, that does look better than before. Though I'd like breeder's left arm to be closer to us, like on Heiftaurus' thigh.
    Also new models for new demon animations, it's a good call. I see you trying now at least! Keep it up.

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  2. But I wonder what the hell is on Breeder's pussy in the feral demon concepts? O_o

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    1. Must be a dildo I think?

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    2. I would say it's supposed to show that the scene is vaginal?

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    4. Stupid lack of Edit button.

      UI Issues:
      Sometimes the Breed chance is static at 0% even though the subroutines function normally.
      Sometimes the Breed chance isn't even shown.
      If you select two monster that are related, and then change one to a monster that isn't related, the black heart remains.
      Occasionally the monsters' preferences and traits will vanish from the monster select screen on mouseover (the briefly appear and then disappear right away).
      Sometimes the game doesn't immediately register the fact that monsters have 0 hearts remaining. The subroutines checking for it work, but the display update doesn't happen until you go to a different region (eg, the town) and back to the pen.
      Monster affection seems to degrade at an alarmingly fast pace.

      The .exe is also bugged: Margo doesn't show up in the beginning, there are no NPC events in general, and when the game notifies you of a change in a monster's data (eg: they seem to have acquired some admirers) there are no buttons to close the window, and TABbing doesn't fix this issue.

      Lag issue: Harpies - with on harpy on the screen, it's barely noticeable. With two, you can see it struggle. With three, it's horrendous.

      Animation issue: Sometimes the Catgirls stand still (prevalent within Futa Catgirls).
      No Animation advancement:: Kittengirl x FBreeder comprises one static frame.

      You ought to try fixing things before adding more.

      I don't want to seem like an asshole, but there's no other way of saying the followng:
      Do you people even test your program before porting it?

      All the issues I've mentioned can, nay will, be experienced within one hour's worth of play.

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    5. there is a reason that this game is in open alpha
      namely so that we, those that play this open alpha, can test it and report bugs

      i don't want to sound like an asshole, but there is no nicer way to say the following:
      do you even know the meaning of alpha?

      if not then here is the meaning
      it's in the early stages of development
      we are even lucky to be playing it at this stage
      bugs will be present.
      if they have to play test each and every version at this stage then we would get an update every month instead of once a week/ once every two weeks
      also since you are reporting bugs maybe it would be smart to actually put the version of the game you are running somewhere in your comment since i tested with the latest non-donater version and i don't have those issues which is valuable information

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    6. Hoboy. Where do I even begin with this? Oh. Please don't TL;DR this post, dragon.
      It's not hard to guess the version of the game I'm reporting this with See "Black Heart". This only came in with the new UI, so either 7.5 or 7.5.1, right?

      Hmm, do I know the meaning of Alpha? Why, yes I do. It means first. Prototype. Leader.

      I know full well the purpose of an open Alpha... And you go on to defend the bugs with such an inane post. Why defend bugs? Bugs in the code should be smoothed out as soon as they can be so the BETA phase does not last long. And bugstomping is also a purpose of the Alpha phase, which you have neglected to mention, rather conveniently. BETA is for final tweaks and additions.

      They don't even have to devote a lot of time to finding the bugs I've reported -- within one hour of play as I said, or can you not be bothered reading the whole thing? Was it a case TL;DR?
      Before you ridicule me with misquoting me again, don't. Get it right next time you want to do that, typos and all. You don't see me resorting to such asininity.

      Stop treating me like a dumbass. I like this game, I just wanted to report some issues that are very quick and easy to experience.

      Every time I read your post, your assumption of my ignorance infuriates me even more. I didn't mean they should test EVERY LITTLE THING, just when they make a massive change, like the new UI. It needed testing. I tested it, it's got quite a few bugs as you can see. I subsequently reported them. Why did you not see that I actually KNOW the purpose of the Alpha builds?

      If only we could report bugs via the Bug Reports tab. Lastly, my post was reasonable. You made one misinformed assumption which you rampantly attempted to prove true.

      Perhaps I could have phrased it nicer. Something like this: "Please be sure to test big changes in the future." may have been better received. I can't imagine they wouldn't have an hour to play their own creation.

      My entire post was about bugs in the UI. From that, it should've been easy to guess the version I'm running. I also have the latest free build, just in case.

      The new UI is causing a load of unintended bugs. I don't want a rollback. I want it to work.
      The most of it is that's it's not updating the on-screen information most of the time. Okay, so now we can donate monsters that have zero hearts remaining and have been fed (that was big, well done for that guys) but now sometimes when you breed two monsters (but it does sometimes also happen when the Breeder is used) that the monsters' heart counts don't decrease. It can be confusing.

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  3. Is there any particular reason why all demon scenes is anal? can at least normal demon male x fbreeder and kid demon male x fbreeder be vaginal sex? pretty please?

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    1. I think the feral scenes are vaginal, the dildo-like stuff is probably supposed to show that that's where the genitals go ;)

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    2. Request seconded. Not only would it be my personal preference, it also makes significantly more sense. I mean, monster breeding may be weird as fuck, but IIRC it still works on the principle of sperm + ovum...

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    3. As was stated in the introduction to breeding when you ask "how it works" to (I think) Cordelia. She states that when a bit of a monster meets another bit of something (monster/human), portal to the Void is opened where the monster matures enough until it's able to poof into our world.

      As far as I know, there's no viable bio-matter in anal secretions. But this is a fantasy game set in a fantasy world. Those "dildo-like" sections are actually cock tips - a placing error caused by bad concept work. Okay, on the Feral Male it's a cockhead. On the Feral Female... Is it basically a huge clit or something? I really don't know here.

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    4. My assumption is that it is because the asshole is the "forbidden hole", which is why they would be all about that ass.

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  5. Lol I always picture the female breeder being held down by the female demon and the female demon is kissing the female breeder and rubbing the breeder's vagina. I love the drawings especially the torus, he has not a care in world when giving the D' to the female breeder ��

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    1. The Tigirl animation is made of disappoint.
      Less rubbing and more mauling from the ferals, please.

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  6. Hi, I a question/ sugestion. Will we have different sex expressions during sex, depending on the liking of: The gender and the beast? For example: The Fbreeder doesn't like anyone or anything "thing", then during sex scenes has a neutral face, but if she has "worships cock" and or "likes someone" has a ahegao face during sex scenes.

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    1. that would be actually really cool! Like depending on the level of affection towards certain race/gender/monster etc. the facial expressions get more intense.

      It wouldn't have to be done in multiple times, but probably just programmed to show the further stages of facial expressions based on the affection.

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    2. from the cutouts I've seen, I dont think so.

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    3. They won't even do animations for all possible pairings and you expect them to add that? Sure, it'd be neat, I wouldn't be a cent on it.

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  7. I wanted to suggest: Could you guys maybe put the concept arts from Subtank and Spurple on the blog before Spurple starts working on it? That way you can avoid situations like with the FBreeder x D*ckwolf, where people really hated the blowjob idea.

    It would be cool to be able to discuss those here and then take the ones that majority of people want, and work on those :D

    Of course it depends on how much Subtank is willing to draw multiple concepts towards one scene. Thus far he is doing amazing with those I would say :D

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    1. agree, we should be able to vote or something.

      I really hoped for something good with demon since dickwolf scene was giant disappointment (feral looks ok but normal one is joke compared to pre-rework animation)...

      it's so UBER SAD that all scenes are anal +/- some black dildo in feral scenes -_-

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    2. is the futa demon anal? do you have x-ray vision? or special brand eyelenses? :P

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    3. i think this is a great idea! not for EVERY animation certainly but it could give them an idea of what we want to see

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  8. So hot! OMG =) thank you for your dirty work =) I love it so much

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  9. may i ask when is the update due? :O

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  10. these animations are let downs all the demon animation designs are anal and there is no bulged in the breeder stomach from fucking the demon, And the feral design is just as rubbish there should be a squiggling tentacle moving underneath the skin of the breeder stomach area. and the facial expressions should be less blissful and enjoyable for the breeder expressions of some pain, terror or lip biting be perfect because her insides are being stretched. and the end animation of the breeder should be a decumflating stomach

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    1. Couldn't agree more. While the animation quality got better, the poses are a major let down. Alot of the poses are illogical, i can see HJ and/or BJ working as harvesting animations but it just doesn't work for breeding. Also the older logic for the animations was better, anal/no penetration = breeding not successful. Vaginal penetration = successful breeding.

      You know Hbomb, when you told us about the rewrite almost 2 years ago, most if not all of us, were expecting the same ammount of animation but in better quality. Now the whole rewrite took 2-3 times longer than you told us and the number of animations is reduced by more than the half. Then it was said we will get 5-7 animations per month, last update included 2. As somebody else mentioned in the comments, one of the art team should draw some simple concepts of different animations and let the people vote what they would like to see in the game.

      I had big hopes for this project and it all looked really good. But since the rewrite this whole thing turns into one huge embarrassment. You guys can't stick to deadlines, can't keep your own promisses, the planing and organisation is a joke. You guys seem to forget who pays your bills. Hire somebody with the required skills in Project Management and clean up the mess. Start talking to your investors (us, your patreons) and include them in the planning.

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    2. And another thing I would like to add. The facial expressions of the breeder are all the same all smiling and her eyes are closed wtf is with that? Where are the ahegao(means fucked stupid face) facial expressions? Where are the pained expressions of ouch the dick is to big for me? especially with the demons who nature we all know to be ruthless and brutal in hentai. please I want to see the breeder look absolutely disgusted with the swine when his animations are out.and yes ass chance stated above biology doesn't work like that you can't knock anything up by blowing a load into a females asshole. people come on don't praise art work above these are the future animations of the game. go back patrons and look at the art works update of the past to now the females facial expressions are the same throughout.

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    3. Told ya they didn't do justice for animations. So for demon is like 99 percent anal? What the f***k? It seems we got very few decent vaginal penetration. I don't count the stupid, overused doggystyle cause we can't tell if it anal or vaginal. And the facial expression of f/breeder same which is lame. I agreed with romell flamig, should be pain expression for demon variants sex. They should stop play ark go play hentaikey flash games or other decent sex games sometimes for ideas.

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    4. I fully agree Chance Harper... Personally I think that the old version (pre stat rework/game rewrite) was much better... sure we didn't had much animations but we had, harvest animations, actual breading/vaginal sex scenes, heck we even had female breeder pregnancy. They got rid of all cool stuff and made this game as a mess and now they change UI every few months mostly and promise more scenes but end with delays or something super generic and boring (example dickwolf x fbreeder or male catguy x fbreeder scene)

      Now they just focusing on art quality but for what price? Less R34 content, shitty poses, futa scenes getting better scenes than normal straight ones,

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    5. Yep. It seems futa got decent vaginal penetration pose too. See futa titwolf? Futa harpy? Clearly anyone can tell. I still sad that they ripped the old dickwolf x f/breeder scene and turn it into piece of garbage. Now most Male x f/breeder is either a repeated doggystlye position or massive handjobs. I will be much pissed if the f/breeder x demoness futa this time is another vaginal sex.

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    6. What? Ew buldging is disgusting and the cum-filled stomach.

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    7. Just back to the basic biology stated earlier.
      Guys... You stated yourselves in the "How does monster reproduction work" topic that's already in the game (Cordelia Text) that it requires a sperm and an ovum. Ova are not ejected through the anus.
      Pay attention to your own lore, god damn it.

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  11. These are all very well done. Nice job team ^^

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    1. Mmhmm. Nice artwork, but there's just a little too much anal here.
      Heh, looks like the male Imp likes Big Booty.

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  12. What about the male breeder?

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    1. Male breeder animations will be done after all of the fem-breeder animations are completed.

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    2. I agree,what about the male breeder? Why do they have to finish all the f/breeder scenes first? I like the art and know that these are concepts still, but what about patreons who play the m/breeder? I am guessing from what I have seen so far there are more f/breeder players but why not do 2-3 sets for the f/breeder then 1-2 sets for the m/breeder? After all the patreons are the investors so should not all the investors get a little bit every now and again.Or it could be nice to see some concepts at least for the m/breeder just to let us know they have them. Otherwise why play the m/breeder at all? There are not as many monster x monster animations (especially m/m)as in the first variation I came across which is what got me to be a patreon in the first place.

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    3. Most people aren't interested in m/m content, which combined with the fact that the team aren't that interested in m/m means they'll only get to it when they've finished with the more popular stuff

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    4. There is that risk that the team is not interested in m/m stuff, but I think the main reason is that they've chosen this way of following the animation tracker, which in my opinion doesn't work, because half of those animations are never going to be seen more than just a few times. Instead they should work based on the variants:

      1. Basic monster combinations + breeders
      2. Basic monster x genderbent
      3. Basic monster x futa
      4. Basic monster x neo
      5. Basic monster x feral

      Then replace the "basic monster" in each step with "genderbent" then "futa" then "neo" then feral, and sh*t's done

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    5. Also, FOCUS ON ANIMATIONS AND STOP ADDING USELESS EVENTS! :D

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    6. You got to admit the Saint Patrick event for the female breeder was sexy. :)

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    7. I don't mean that the events are bad. I mean that they're low priority compared to how much work there is to be done, meaning:

      -fix the stupid bugs, which increased with the new UI
      -make animations
      -add story and stuff to the game

      Those are the basic things that need to be done. As much as I love the possible events and what not, I would much rather have new NPCs in the game, or some story progressions, or maybe new missions/requests, or something. There are so many ideas for the lore and character backgrounds and the world etc. Why waste time on making some mini-game?

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    8. Artakons

      imho the order should be:

      1. Basic monster combinations + breeders
      2. Basic monster x genderbent
      3. Basic monster x feral
      4. Basic monster x futa
      5. Basic monster x neo

      or even make futa last.

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    9. Yeah, that's what I wrote earlier as well :D lol

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    10. Oh wait, I just noticed you changed the order, sorry my mistake. But yeah, I believe that system would be much more efficient in making the game more playable, than just going column by column with the animation tracker.

      Now if only the BS team actually read the comments...

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    11. I think it should be spread around. I had a suggestion a while back I think would be the best of both worlds:

      Pick one side of the current animation, get the list of undone animations for that character. If this list includes basic monsters, drop all the others from the list. Pick one off the list randomly, and keep that one as the one to keep next round. If there weren't any undone animations for the monster, pick an undone animation randomly.

      This would let us have nice little surprises all the time.

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    12. Why does it have to be m/m I want m/f scenes with the male breeder, do people not realize you can fuck girls as the male? Seriously I like this game a lot would be love except no love at all for a male char I don't even care about the m/m scenes just kind of annoying all these new ones in the game yet 80% of the male pc ones don't even have a place holder...

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    13. A lot of the FBreeder ones didn't have placeholders either until they started working on them.
      And yes, when playing as MBreeder there will be scenes where it's the Guy doing the fucking. Not all of it will be M/M.

      At any rate, I'm Bi so it doesn't bother me either way... -_^

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    14. You guys have to realize that these people are making the game how they want to and does not care what we want.

      I'm with Zalzany, however.

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    15. I do realize that. That's why I originally phrased it as, 'here are some factors that might motivate you to change this particular plan'. On the other hand, if they don't feel any pressure to produce, I guess they won't really HAVE motivations.

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    16. That's definitely true. Without any real pressure towards work, they are visibly losing motivation to make this project happen (especially when 2016 kinda forced them to finally giddy up and start working, we can see how month by month their work ethics go to sh*t)

      But the problem is also, they don't care! Recently I had the opportunity to catch Spurple streaming. I just asked him a simple question, if the Feral Demon scenes are vaginal or anal (there is that dildo-like thing in the FBreeder's pussy, so I thought it shows that it's vaginal, but people in the comments were wondering)
      His response: "I DON'T CARE. EVEN IF I GATHERED ALL MY CARE IN THE WORLD, IT WOULDN'T BE ENOUGH". And when me and other people in the chat started discussing something related to BS (meaning, it wasn't about Spongebob or other shit), he just wrote "DON'T SHNIVEL", and shut everyone down…

      Same goes for Vanilly, when someone asked her a kinky question on Tumblr about something like "if you would need to f*ck one of the BS monsters in order to get out of a room, which one would it be?" and her response was "neo harpy, so I could kill it and escape". Granted, it might have been just a joke, but somehow it is hard to believe it was only her humour.

      And please, don't even let me start on their "progress" which we can see on their streams. Spurple is literally the only one of them actually delivering steady amount of work...

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  13. You might want to think about changing the FBreeder x Demon to vaginal, since (Butt)Stallions will be all about butts, and since Demons and Stallions have roughly the same body and dick proportions, it would be nice to have variety.

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    1. Buttstallions should have stayed as Buttstallions instead of being changed to just "Stallions".

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    2. I think Stallions fit much better. Buttstallions sounds way too silly.

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    3. And silliness is a problem in a game like this?

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    4. I think it's silly in an idiotic way and I'm glad it's not something that I think sounds incredibly stupid like "Buttstallions".

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    5. I see your point (and now that I'm not a little drunk) I kind of agree.
      I do think that "Milftaur" while clever at the start is a little funny but a bit ludicrous.

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  14. To everyone worried about anal scenes with the demons. Look at the feral scenes, there's a dildo-like attachment in the vagina of the FBreeder. I believe that is supposed to indicate that the scene is actually vaginal, not anal.

    Bulging is usually added AFTER this stage, where Spurple made the art, so don't worry, there will be some for sure (if not, I'm gonna join on the lynching ;P ).

    As for the facial expressions, I agree, there should be variants, some scenes should make the breeder scared more than anything, some should make her go aheago, and some should at least show that she is in a bit of pain (even though the breeders have that superpower of being able to take dicks of all shapes and sizes). BUT! That is also going to be done AFTER the concept stage, so it's still ahead of the team.

    Don't forget that what we see right now is the early stage of the animations, so of course in order to make it faster Spurple put some ready facial expressions there just to make it look full (it doesn't mean that those will be used). It's the same as the Feral Holstaurus scene, where the FBreeder is just cut-out from the catboy scene, it doesn't mean that that's what she will look like in the finished animation, it's just the concept of where she will be and what is she going to be doing.

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    1. That dildo thing..Well you might be right if it refer to demon feral male as vaginal penetration but female feral? Unless the female feral demon is actually futa feral which I doubt it was. So can't be sure it was vaginal. Beside, if it really vaginal penetration, why can't they be bold and clear like the taurus animation concept?

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    2. because it's a CONCEPT. As you can see both feral demons have GIANT private parts, so it's up to the animator to figure out how everything will fit etc. This artwork just indicates where each character is, what position they start in, what kind of sex it is. There is still going to be the clean-up part for the animation after this.

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    4. Lol , it could be a pussy expander? You know for her to take bigger stuff. Then I hope the female breeder has a sex flush.

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    5. "To everyone worried about anal scenes with the demons. Look at the feral scenes, there's a dildo-like attachment in the vagina of the FBreeder. I believe that is supposed to indicate that the scene is actually vaginal, not anal."

      his dick is in her anus so it's anal... people give a fuck about some random dildo in her pussy...

      also actually I doubt someone will even bother with feral demons unless someone is in some spooky/nightmare fuel porn...

      Lack of vaginal sex for normal male demon is sad... I could deal with that weird feral sex scenes being anal + dildo in pussy if at least fbreeder x male demon was vaginal sex not 'x'th anal scenes -_-

      either they are doing some random ass blowjobs or now jump on anal sex O_o

      did whole BS team forgot how this game is called? BREADING Season... how the fuck is female breeder and rest of female monstergirls are suppose to get pregnant if their "sex" scenes will be 100% safe anal or foreplay like bj, titjob, etc...

      I wonder if people remember old dickwolf x female elf animation? it was anal if no new monster was born and vaginal if "breading" was successful.

      I wonder if people remember that Breading Season had in past animations for harvesting (handjobs, blowjobs, milking tits, etc) and for sex/breading (vaginal sex).

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    6. Before I start: If you look at the pictures you can see that neither of the feral demons' genitals actually ENTER the FBreeder's a**, so don't talk like I'm 100% wrong, the dildo-thing was my theory towards what the concept is supposed to mean. I don't know for sure either.

      And yes, there is a surprising amount of anal scenes made for the FBreeder, but we don't know when the concepts have been made. Perhaps Subtank has already drawn all of the FBreeder scenes, and just never noticed how many of them happened to be anal?


      I mean, obviously it would be awesome to have harvesting and breeding animations separately, but let's be honest, it's never going to happen, because the animators are either lazy, or not able to make so much content (even if the artist is able to keep up and even go ahead of the schedule). And apparently the BS team is not keen on hiring more members, because the paychecks are very nice and juicy at the moment (you can even see that their patrons donations for the last month increased)

      And since it's never going to happen, they are trying to put multiple sex acts into the animations. Some of them will be blowjobs, titjobs, fondling, anal, vaginal, tentacle and whatever else.

      Are you telling me that you would honestly prefer all the scenes for ALL the female x male combinations to be vaginal sex just because "it makes sense to get pregnant only through vaginal"? How boring would that be?

      Of course it's logical to assume that there can only be an offspring if the female was impregnated. But there are still so many animations to be made, let's not be so picky about a few that just happen not to be penetrative. The last thing we want right now is for the animators to be changing some animations for the sake of that logic. The progress is already slow without that.

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    7. "Are you telling me that you would honestly prefer all the scenes for ALL the female x male combinations to be vaginal sex just because "it makes sense to get pregnant only through vaginal"? How boring would that be?"

      that's how it was in past. And it was much better and more logical.

      breeding/sex animations = vaginal so female can get pregnant. Elf girl had 2 variations of sex with dickwolf so people could even guess when she get's pregnant and when not

      gathering animations = all type of foreplay, teasing, etc so male jizz or female fluids/milk won't end in female pussy/anus/mouth but in bucket.


      I remember when they suddenly decided to remove gather animation and started making foreplay animations as sex scenes and when people pointed that they said "we will make multiple animations so every girl will end with penetration sex".... almost year later they changed their mind and said they won't do this.

      I'm 100% that we will get 2+ more UI changes this year, 4-5 new "events", few new NPC and quests, 2-3 new commissioned monsters (I still have no idea how sick someone have to be commission pigs or mandrake... sex scenes will be vomit material) and other random stuff while animations will be still delayed and end as crap (except futa because they really focus on those only)

      "The last thing we want right now is for the animators to be changing some animations for the sake of that logic. The progress is already slow without that."

      well lots of people play this because of the "breading" but if there is no breading then game name should be totally changed. People for years point that we need more vaginal penetration scenes not some foreplay bullshit but it looks like they ignore it. They do what they want and still take our money every month

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    8. You got some points here. It is like a h-manga which tagged with pregnancy but all it got is anal sex scene and ended up with girl got buldging belly in the end. Surely everyone will goes wt* and start to question the logic. I don't mind foreplay or anal as long there is balance/equality with penetration sex but what we got here is lots of anal and foreplay but really few straight sex. Now that what we called bored and lame. The proof is there are lots of fans complains about this now compared to the old version.

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  15. Oh hey, the neoteny genderswapped version of the holstaurus is doing reverse cowgirl. I get it.

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  16. Oh hey, the neoteny genderswapped version of the holstaurus is doing reverse cowgirl. I get it.

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    1. And another freaking doublepost.
      What is wrong with some people?

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  17. I would like to agree with the comments complaining about the facial expressions. They're a bit monotonous. Would be great with more variety like ahegao.

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  18. Hello I'm here to insult you again

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  19. Please feral female demon x małe breeder. Vaginal scene Please !!!

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    1. Although it's not an ideal system by any stretch of the imagination, I'm willing to bet that it will be a Vaginal scene. It seems as though Subtank and Fleet have a thing for Anal intrusions.
      We can hope for more Vaginal scenes.

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  20. the next version comes with everything Good Job :D

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    1. Anal beads, you mean? Or Ben Wa balls?

      But seriously, there should definitely be a couple of toys involved in at least some of the scenes – like strap-ons, two-way dildos, BDSM items and the sort.

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    2. Strap-ons would be amazing too! And it'd make sense for the girl on girl stuff or the more submissive looking males rather than the scissoring animations we've been getting.

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    3. Actually the catgirl grinding away at the elf chick's pussy is among my favorite scenes so far, so I wouldn't mind more of that... but I agree that variety would be key (including Zalzany's complaint about the male breeder), and while I personally dislike pegging, it would be an awesome addition for e. g. Elf Guy ♥ Elf Chick, it would totally fit their concept. Maybe it could be unlocked by a quest with Cordelia, since she was the only character to mention her infatuation with such forbidden items.

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    4. During one of the streams I asked Spurple to forward the idea of toys to Subtank and the team. By far no changes... It can be either because Subtank has already prepared so many concepts in advance, or they don't care...

      Which is sad, because toys would be like a really cool thing to include for the BREEDERS, who are the only humans involved. Like, using the toys is a human-specific type of thing

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  22. "Expect the public release sometime this week." ~two weeks ago...

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    1. And another week later, still nothing.

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    2. Its not like your paying for it

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    3. I have 7.5.1, but I've kept 7.3.1 as the UI is faster, cleaner and poses less bugs than the current one, making for an overall less click-intensive game.
      Stop defending people who appear to not actually give a damn.
      They're already three weeks behind on the public build. And that's okay is it? Just because it doesn't have to paid for?
      It's not. It's yet another breach of trust, and unless the build comes with at the very least a genuine apology for being so late on the release (they said they would release it about three weeks ago) they can expect a large portion of the player base to peel away. And not just free users either. Patrons are getting sick of the lackluster project "management" as well. Bug reports out the wazoo, and guess what? Very, very few actually get fixed.

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  23. This is why I will never support this, zero male pc animations, I mean come on I don't want m/m but been looking through the logs now and its amazing game, but as male pc player I feel kind of cheated out of everything. I don't even get a place holder, I mean I think I got like 2 scenes now with the females, meanwhile this animation update alone is more scenes then I have seen playing this game for quite some time now.

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    1. That's because they are doing the animations according to the Animation Tracker (check the Wiki). That means that the male breeder animations will be made AFTER the female breeder animations.

      It was said so many times I'm surprised you missed that in the logs...

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  24. This is why I will never support this, zero male pc animations, I mean come on I don't want m/m but been looking through the logs now and its amazing game, but as male pc player I feel kind of cheated out of everything. I don't even get a place holder, I mean I think I got like 2 scenes now with the females, meanwhile this animation update alone is more scenes then I have seen playing this game for quite some time now.

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    1. The male player scenes will be done ,after all the female player scenes are in.
      At least that is what i read a while back

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    2. You read it correctly, and I'm sighing and rolling my eyes at Zalzany.
      1: He doubleposted, and I have no idea why.
      2: He didn't read the replies may people have posted.
      3: He didn't bother checking the Animation Tracker.
      4: "Never support this". remeber that when the Male Anims are starting.

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  25. Every time i scroll down to the comment section, there people asking the same question in previous posts about problem that has been talk about in previous develop posts.
    Then there are the people who base on one still concept pic that has not been cleaned, cut up and improved yet to say it's shit.
    Nobody is forcing you to donate to the patreon, and like majority of you people will get the patreon links somewhere else without paying for it, basically you're getting this game for free. Why being so salty about it ? There are plenty games out there.

    They're trying to include variety of fetish out there and you people still can't bitch about it.

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    1. Whatever you said, white knights or maybe alt account of devs. Like you can stop us from b*t***g. It's normal to complain while it is still in concept, not after when it has been finished. If it not because of us complaining, then we already got dickwolf crappy handjob. People has right to bitch but hey, you can keep your duty to defend the devs. They will be glad for having a loyal white knight like you.

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    2. Ive been supporting this project from the beginning; and it has such wonderful potential and such amazing art... and i had really high hopes for it and my desire for this game to flourish got greater and greater until the final art change... the art change and the slow stream of content killed my hope for this game...
      i went from a $20 supporter to a $10 then to a $1 in the span of three months. I want this game to be completed but its not going to at the rate it is going at, it will take years, maybe decades for us to get this game and by then itll die.. the devs either need to get their shit together or pass the torch onto better people and pay them for work done not for an idea.

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    3. @Blood Marroon:
      While all woes are understandable, criticism should be constructive and aimed at the product, not the people making it. Selfish demands, dramatic whining and accusations can only be counter-productive.

      @Nic J:
      What kind of art change do you mean? I've been following the game for a while, and a LOT has changed SIGNIFICANTLY since then:
      • v4.2 – http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/634329
      • v4.6 – http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/638898

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    4. The art we have now seems to be the biggest draw to the fanbase but the biggest draw back to the time, but sensiblescrotum you're right the art has changed about 3-4 times since its creation on the legend of krystal forums (legend of hugs and back pats forums).. sorry for not elaborating but I was just venting. my personal criticisms would be
      1. they need to work more efficiently toward a realistic core game
      2. stop adding holiday events until the game is an actual game
      3. have a voting system for the community again (just so we can have some impact)
      and theres lots more but you know

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    5. @Blood Marroon: Bitching randomly because it does not meet your fetish or to your liking is not helping anyone. If you don't like it then move on with your life instead of being a whiny child. If you have something to said to the devs then catch one of the stream and ask them directly.

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    6. "If you have something to said to the devs then catch one of the stream and ask them directly."

      devs are busy with doing random ass shit or talking about stuff not related with BS most of the time. Not to mention that streams are filled only with white knights so you gonna get kicked/banned as soon as you point something negative/bad about Dev team personal vision

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    7. It would get him banned if if goes whining and bitching during the stream.
      If he takes "a chill pill" first and phrases it in a way that's constructive rather than what he's been doing here, he won't get banned.

      Instead of "You're shit at this wahhh wahhh" -- which is basically what the vast majority of his posts boil down into -- it make work out better if he simply states what he feels would make it better without spewing the epithets that accomplish nothing. When nobody's watching you, that's when you can bitch and whine about shit.

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  26. "the devs either need to get their shit together or pass the torch onto better people and pay them for work done not for an idea."

    more like devs needs to start working not derping... I watched spurple past few days and he was constantly chatting with people on stream about Spongebob and other stuff they were watching on stream... his work speed is super slow and pathetic because of that.

    I literally can't even imagine what stream chat would do with some poor soul that started talking about game or even give some critique/negative opinion about something. SPurple white knights would murder that person and he would be probably insta banned.

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    1. Well, to be fair, despite his work ethic being not so good, Spurple is the only one keeping his deadlines. Every month he gives us the prepared artworks for animations, with the variants and everything.

      If anything, I would say the biggest problem is poor planning (they need to have some sort of schedule, like "from this to this time we work, and that's final!", and also have a clear idea of what it is they're currently doing), lack of commitment (they should be more vary of not keeping the promises, and set deadlines for themselves to avoid such situation as last month's lack of animations).

      And finally, and this is not an attack but just an observation, it seems the ones who have the biggest problem with laziness seem to be Vanilly and Subtank. I'm not talking as if I'm an expert, but in a project work if you are behind with something, you need to put extra time into work. Their behaviour is "oh well, we did THIS much this month, let's see how much we'll do next time". There are no real consequences or anything, just kinda like "meh, deal with it"

      Also the thing I really miss is visible management from HBomb. As cool and fun as it is to work with friends, this is still work, and he needs to be strict when it comes to them being not giving enough results. Because laziness is one thing. Spurple might seem lazy, but yet his results are consistent every month. It's his choice that he is streaming for 14 hours because of watching movies and chatting, but he will still finish what he had to do in the week/month. I cannot say the same for Vanilly, and Subtank doesn't even seem to exist to be honest...

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    2. if they won't start treating this project as real job/big source of income instead of hobby/ and actually start communicating with fans/community or just patreons and do some polls of what monsters we want, what sex poses we prefer, etc .... then BS is fucked up in terms of future. They don't give a flying fuck about what people say about sex poses or removing of old features (harvesting animations and fbreeder pregnancy for example). They do what they want even if they get money for this for lots of people they don't listen at all. Maybe Breading Season needs Community Manager xD lmao

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    3. I mean, let's be honest, they will never think of this as more than a hobby (at least not all of them), because in a real job there is the risk of LOSING it. Hbomb is never going to kick anyone out of the team, and the money is flowing fine, so why should they worry? -.-

      Basically what we, as the patrons and fans, are getting at the moment is a team of devs, who don't give a flying fuck about their fans' opinions (at least that's how it feels), and whenever they are confronted, a lame excuse is given (or not, after all there was no explanation to why there were so little animations made last month).

      I know none of them is going to read this comment, but from me to anyone in the BS team: Please, work on your project management! Get some serious schedule and plan to follow. We don't care what your working hours are, but we want to see a steady progress (by the way, what happened to the weekly updates? Art updates? Programming updates? Animation updates?). Keep up the good work, but don't disappoint the people, who pay your bills!

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    4. They also need to investigate bug reports. Or give us a way to post a kind of "investigate this bug" section on the Bug Reports page. And make sure there's someone actually reading them and investigating said bug reports. The devs could also confirm them, instead of relying on a huge amount of players gunking threads with the same report.
      Simple and easy.

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  27. hey not to sound rude or anything but is the 7.5 ever going to go public? I saw on the post for it on may second that it said it would be up later that week and i'm still waiting for it, i'm really excited to play but I don't have a patreon account so if someone could please let me know when the public release of the latest update (if it's ever going to be public that is0 comes out I would really appreciate it!

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    1. You won't get 7.5 until the patrons get 7.6 , That is why I became a patron to see the newest content when it comes out i got tired of sloppy seconds :P
      so far they update to the newest version at the end of every month for patrons , which means a few days later you should get the one we just played last month

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    2. A few days?!
      It's been nearly a solid month without even delivering 7.4.

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    3. ok well i am new to this one ,but that is how most games work it the non paying people are always one or two versions behind
      One question i do have is, when is the best time frame to see Hbombs stream ? it always seems to be offline when i look .

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    4. It used to be two to three weeks (sometimes a month) between Patron and Public releases.
      I can only assume there's a boatload of things that need to work before they push 7.4 Public.

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  28. Does anyone get the bug where once you go to sleep and wake up the next day, you get a message from any monster but the text doesn't appeare and your stuck in the message screen with no way out...?

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    1. Bug exists in the .exe version.
      Try running the .swf instead.

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  29. Does the development team work

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  30. Does the development team work

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    1. *sigh*
      Does you knows basic grammar?

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    2. *passive aggressive action*
      does you knows how to argue without insulting the opposite party?

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    3. I wasn't arguing. I commented on something that is clearly incorrect.
      Can't you post without seeming ridiculous by insulting someone else?

      While I probably was out of line, the fact remains that while Estraga is typing in English, and seems to have a fairly decent grasp on the language as a whole, he/she is actually unfamiliar with the basic essence of a parasitic relationship.

      Though the dev team are lazy as whatever-have-you, they're not actually parasites. Parasites invade you whether you want them to or not and leech you to death. Nobody made him or anyone else donate. And anyone that has donated is free to pull their support. Not really parasitic.

      Lastly, let's stop now before this turns into yet another bitching thread.

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  31. >35k/month
    >10 days without news
    >a lot of people thinking that a game this simple actually take that long to be made
    >people still supporting it

    Dropped. Worst parasitic relationship ever.

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    2. Deleted for derp.

      Apparently you're not too clear on what parasites actually do.
      Parasites take without ever giving. Ten days and you're bitching. You must be a riot on any corporate developer forums.

      Yes, they said there'd be weekly updates but that went by the wayside quickly. Guess what? Nobody cared that much.
      I agree that the pace seems rather slow. If they went for "per content release" stuff would get done faster for sure, but it would probably be even buggier.

      I'm not a dev, if that's what you're thinking.

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    3. if you Think you can code and do animation ,hey give it a shot but, until you know what is involved
      in making a game , don't scream too bad
      I tried reading some books on coding for games, and it got me lost in a hurry , i will stick to blender and 3d art its easier

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    4. Hey, I dropped my support too. I love the game, I absolutely adore the idea, however this is ridiculously slack and unprofessional behavior for the amount of money involved. I love supporting small/indie developers and I will continue to do so. I have seen teams that small and even smaller do far better with less.
      Until now, beside the slow animation pacing, which might be excused to a point, my biggest peeve is with the low quality of recently released animations.
      I'm talking about the facial expressions and lack of facial expression animations in the last 2-3 updates. It might be understandable if it was overlooked when first released, but not fixing them for the next update?! If this is the level of quality this game takes for acceptable, I just can't get behind that, sorry.
      And we're talking about animations here. Coding is usually OK. Sure, it's normal to have a few bugs when new features are introduced, but they are usually sorted out quickly enough.
      Issue is and always has been with animations.

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  32. All i can say is if its taking them this long then hopefully it means good news for game features in the future. The other possibility also being that the browser verion may be taking longer to fix then they originally thought but, thats just me over thinking things. (Fingers crossed we get alot more animations.)

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  33. I know you have mittsies on your team and i am concerned.... he works with rock candy frequently and i feel like his butt lust might be a big influence here and lots of people who enjoy anal prefer vaginal intercourse where Mittsies and Rock Candy are more than biased to anal. please make sure your reigning him in.

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  34. Seeing all the complaints about anal/vaginal etc. regarding the sex scenes, I once again suggest my idea:

    Please make regular blog posts with the concept arts from Subtank, and let us at least discuss the possibility of changing some particular scenes. That way the fans are involved and happier, and also we might have some nice ideas that Subtank or Spurple haven't thought of at the moment ;) I believe as the people, who essentially pay your bills, we deserve as much.

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    1. I support this ,an animation preview for feedback ,would make sense kind of like when i make a 3D model i do a low poly mock up of it first to see if its what they are looking for .before i waste my time adding detail to something that doesn't make the customer happy

      my 2cents

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    2. So... what you want is to drag this out even longer by making the present what they're going to do, having the forum/board split into two camps screaming at each other about whether it's acceptable or not, then possibly make them re-do it and start the argument again?

      Just accept what they pick and chose the species that have the sex animations you like.

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    3. But Lyda, obviously accepting what they pick doesn't work (you can see that in lots of comments here with complaints, and also the previous posts' comments). When they first released the concept for a Dickwolf blowjob scene, people asked the artists to change it, and guess what? There was no delays concerning the animation, and at least people were heard.

      The fact stays that despite what they're trying to tell you, Subtank, Spurple and Vanilly work on different departments, which finally create the animation. It won't slow down Vanilly or Spurple, if Subtank has to re-draw a pose. Of course, if he would take like 3 days on making it, then obviously that's not good, but I will never believe that it takes more than 1 hour to draw each concept. Eventually you could say that coming up with them takes time, but if they shared the ideas with the blog, that problem would be solved, because WE would give them the ideas.

      Obviously there will always be unsatisfied people, but if we would put it to vote, they can just choose the animation that majority of people want (so for example if we voted anal/oral/vaginal, and then once those are chosen, either we could all agree on a position, or Subtank would just choose).

      But it's not like it matters. At this point it feels like the devs actually hate the patrons more than anything. They ignore us, stopped communicating with anyone outside of the stream (and even during the stream they don't want to discuss the game). They are happy with the huge amounts of money gathered from the patrons, and will continue to work on their own pace as long as the money is flowing. If anyone has a complaint, their attitude is "you can just leave".

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  35. As i always say, if you want this game, you need to forget it for 2 or 3 years and come back to see the beta. If you want to play a better version just find 4.x pre patreon versions and play it. Much more animations with stable game play.

    I don't understand people who still waiting a miracle at each morning. They are lying about everything to get your money with minimal effort. Promised animations no, promised bug cleaning no, promised website no, promised game not before 3 years.

    side not: anal is good.

    Squark not: you don't need to reply. Just joking. Please reply.

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    2. This I strangely enough agree with. We can hope it won't take three years (interest will further wane before much longer), but it's best to be realistic in this case.
      The wall of bugs I posted was for 7.5.1 and I noticed just yesterday afternoon that the Kay event is STILL fubar'd. Tabbing highlighted where the pier and the Close buttons would be but both were unclickable.
      Personally, I'd rather a 7.5.2 that addresses severe gamebreaking bugs (like the Kay event) before pushing a 7.6 anywhere.

      Anal IS good. But not all the time, which is the issue people seem to have with the Demon Anims (they all seem to be anal), which defies pregnancy by the existing in-game lore that Cordelia mentions during one of her conversation topics. She states that the portal requires a sperm and an ovum. No race ejects an ovum through their Anus... Well, not in Breeding Season, anyway.

      The pace of this work is why you pitch an idea to a community and try to hire from that. Hiring your friends should only be a LAST resort. Because when you're lazy working with strangers, they will chew you out on it.

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  37. http://s-purple.tumblr.com/post/144297250846/how-do-you-guys-handle-developing-a-good-game

    Good, I get called a "nameless person on the internet that has no relation to their life or well being" for investing 10% of my part time job salary in this sh$t, just because the team is not delivering as promised and doesn't want to face criticism. THANK YOU.

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    1. For f$cks sake Hbomb, there are a lot of better artists, that will overwork themselves and will make better art for less money, yet you keep this dumbass around for 2 years already...

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    2. You can complain, but:

      1) they don't read the blog (and when they do, they ignore most of the stuff said. Criticism bounces off them like off a wall)

      2) HBomb primarily hired FRIENDS for this project (or they became friends overtime), and he has no intention of changing the team whatsoever. We can see that with little to no consequence that Vanilly gets for not putting enough progress EVER (promised around 7 animations, we never got that many from here from the very start). We see that with hiring Subtank, who "was helping the team before being officially added" and yet apart from drawing a few grey concepts, he doesn't seem to be doing anything else (doesn't even stream, because he knows there is nothing to show there). And finally Spurple, who even though he does put out the regular amount of content, he is an egoist with the superiority complex. And of course let's not forget Hbomb and Fleet, who most of the time during streaming are either chatting, "BRB", or just click around, writing a line of code once per half an hour.

      But hey, who cares when there is still sheep who willfully donates money to this project :)

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    3. Yeah I know, would be great if a good amount of patrons will report them to the patreon staff, as they aren't actually fulfilling their own conditions. I just sent it.

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    4. It might get the ball rolling.
      Let's hope something changes soon.

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    5. that full patreon stuff is just internet robbery anyway it's like these porn sites with monthly membership payment

      but if you give these strangers money for nothing it's your own fault

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    6. Welp, nothing new, spurple is a douchebag. Others just don't pay attention at all. I've already stopped subscribing their product after I've seen what kind of people the team are. :/

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  38. After three years as patreon, two of them on "spit in your face mode" month yes, month no, is time to start reporting on patreon, yes, Patreon Staff sure ignore it, in the same way we're ignored here, but at this point, hit on the wallet seems the only way of do something. Any lawyer over here? I would pay money, a lot of money, only to see the face of these scammers if we could take any kind of legal actions XDDDDD

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    1. i highly agree they are eating money out of your wallets for such little content for patreons even Fallout 4 dlcs and starwars battlefront has more content than this.

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    2. And it really drives it home if you got the Season Pass.

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  39. Why are you guys complaining? Its the same thing every month.
    Think about it ffs!. Do you actually BELIEVE they WANT to finish the game and stop getting 35K a month?
    The slower they work, the more people donate, the longer they keep getting a absurd amount of money. This is the most amount of money Ive seen they get, and the least amount of content they put out.

    I would be laughing my ass to the bank to if I had all these idiots donating me 35K a month for basically doing F*ck all.

    Look at it from their perspective. This income will only keep coming during development. And especially in times people are aching for new content.
    Its a genious business strategy. Find a sex niche that tons of people want. Make a patreon, and let all the horny people pay insane amounts of money as long as you make sure to deliver as little as possible, and dont finish the game.

    So who's the idiots? Them or you?

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    1. that's exactly what i mean pro
      this patreon shit is just stealing money

      i would never pay money without getting something worth it in exchange
      and that crap about supporting artist is just a por excuse for stealing money
      i mean if they can't afford making small games then why even trying?


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    2. @Decker
      ("i mean if they can't afford making small games then why even trying?") Because they want to get payed for their work, why else, genius? You won't pay for anything unless there's something in it for you so what makes you think other people would work for free while getting nothing in return? They have needs to fulfill and bills to pay just like any other adult. Most indie developers who release games for free either have a second job or other sources of income to sustain themselves. Patreon is just that - a way of turning a hobby into a paying business.

      They provide the goods through skill and time and you, as the costumer, provide the money. Its not hard to understand. Rather than hating on the people who take advantage of Patreon's low-points to rip people off, why aren't you complaining on the main Patreon website for them to change their policies to be more scam-proof? Ya know what, I ain't even mad towards the Breeding Season devs. They are milking their costumers for profit, you can diss all you want but chances are you and I would have done the same in their shoes.

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    3. getting paid for working means you're an employer of a firm where someone whos ordering you around
      pays you off (or fired you)
      or if you're independently you have to make something and sell it

      but this patreon monthly payment is youst rip of where not ther bosses we can't ordering them what and when to to
      they also don't need to actually finish their stuff (to sell it) to get money

      and these idiots who spent their money on this can't do anything about it
      (except for stopping to put money in these lazy assholes)

      i know not all of these "artist" on patreon are money crazy lazy scarma but these devs are doing it mostly as a hobby in their free time (so they need years to finish one small game)
      and using patreon to steal money or as some kind of a welfare....

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    4. The only Patreon projects I even consider supporting are the "per content release" ones. I consider those fair.

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    5. Problem with pay/month is that is considered as a free rippof, unless the patreons look carefully every month it they are working what they say, and more importantly, they are working what they are worth, everyone will understand that a proyect needs to move some money to equipment, but that is only the first months, and i think the patreons will understand if you go, we are slower these months cause we bought x programs, x software x hardware and we are porting/getting used to it, but it will let us work with more quality....
      but most would should consider twice when they go: we are gonna do a stream playing ark!
      2 weeks due for update, soz guys, we worked so hard but here you go, we did half of the promised work but we worked all night 24/7

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  40. You know they don't have to finish the game it's not in writing

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  41. Month 30 k usd
    2 week 2 art update :/

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    1. The only way they'll see that they have to work AND listen is if they see that healthy figure HALVE in a very short span of time.
      I don't see it happening, however. It's like the old adage: "A fool and his money are soon parted."

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  42. Hi. I wonder how it will go with The sex animations!
    it was a lot more sex animations in the game for more than a year ago and before the game was reprogrammed, than it is now !!!!
    I think you start on too much things that you do not finish, it is good that you are doing many things to the game but completes the then before you begin a lot of other things!

    Applicability: before you add more breeders / characters to the game finished the animation to the breeders / characters you already have before you begin to make more new breeders / characters to the game or start another project into the game.

    I think the game has gotten much better since one year back, but too much unfinished things and too much mew project started in the game currently.

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