Monday, February 8, 2016

Monday Art Update

Hi everyone, last week was finishing prepping all Cat monster animations x Fbreeder, finalizing all monster colors, and preparing wolf monster x fbreeder poses for next month.




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  1. Will it be released on the public version cuz I love playing this game I would support this game if I could but the money that I get from work goes to my bills and my family this is a game that I go to when I get bored of Xbox and I can't wait to see this game grow

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    1. The public version stays a few builds behind the backer version, so you will get the updates, it will just take longer.

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    2. don't even bother. Return here in like year or more so maybe you will see something that's actually "playable"

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    3. Uh, the game is playable, your toaster probably needs to be replaced.

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    4. I was talking about lack of "working" game content not about ability to start the game mister "oh boy I showed him with my may may toaster response". ATM game is in a state of giant mess. Everything is unfnished and overall look like a mess + and the changes in sex animations (dickwolf x femalbe breeder sex pose change is biggest bad joke I saw) or removal of old features (breader pregnancy, etc) is also not cool...

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    5. This game is still in Alpha. It's not completed, so of course there is going to be some missing content, as well as errors. If your not happy, maybe you should come back in a year.
      If you want perfect, find somewhere else to throw your hatred. There's no need to stay here and complain. We don't want to hear it, and no body really cares that you think it's shit. Other people should be allowed to play without your bitter attitude clogging up the comments.
      So, please, for the sake of everyone else, please keep your fingers off the keyboard. I, as well as others, don't appreciate your negativity.

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    6. Unfortunately people who played this game or any other games has every right to said their opinion, whether it is a critisim or praise. Of course we never asked you or others to read our complains nor we are bashing you for defending the game and the devs. Well, even the devs didn't say anything so why are you getting pissed off seeing negativity in your favorite gamepage? This is life. I made games too but I never tell people go away when they come and said negatives things about my game.

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  2. Will it be released on the public version cuz I love playing this game I would support this game if I could but the money that I get from work goes to my bills and my family this is a game that I go to when I get bored of Xbox and I can't wait to see this game grow

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  3. Hah, the Titwolf pic (not futa) made me laugh. I love it!

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  4. ummm, so that's it? 3 unfinished pics were done in a whole week?

    And wait a second, what was Vanilly doing in January, if You're telling us that last week was STILL prepping all cat monster animations? So the 7 animations/month was a lie? I thought the cat animations were done by now?

    Honestly, what's happening?

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    1. It seems like nothing is happening...

      Honestly I think the devs team is simply lazy, and whenever confronted, they'll say "life happened".

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    2. >Honestly, what's happening?

      nothing. They are showing middle finger to everyone.

      for the amount of money they get ever months they should work every day for like 10+ hours not some few hours streams every few days. They get more money then normal people with standard jobs from Monday to Saturday/Sunday. That's bad joke

      This game should be already in playable beta state like year ago, with all basic monster and breeders having multiple animations and their only job would be just adding new monsters every 1-2 months.

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    3. I agree. Also, I think it was Newbie, who pointed out last week that nothing is happening during the streams. Well, I don't know about FleetArt, but it doesn't seem like either of the artists have streamed yesterday. Let's just hope they at least worked outside of the stream.

      Meanwhile, I don't know who still donates to this project. It's obviously lousily done, at a non-existent pace. The team adds a new event, or a colour variation from time to time to make it seem like they're doing something. Meanwhile the game is practically the same as it was 6-12 months ago. Sure, they added ferals, and what? It doesn't change the fact that no animations are done, no more story added, no new locations/buildings etc.

      Please people, either stop giving your money for nothing, or somehow make the devs actually work on this project, because right now, it's doomed...

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    4. Same here. I sought to support them, read all this blog and noticed that from time to time they just recolouring some stuff (like Mermaid in post from Tuesday, September 29, 2015 and from Monday, December 14, 2015) That's like three months and they just put it as a concept art. Again...
      It's just a poor management I guess. And I don't want to support project that has poor management... :(

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    5. Whoah hi there, I hope I can shed some light on what's been happening. January when Subtank was introduced, S-purple and Subtank were working at lightspeeds getting POSES done. If you read the blogposts, we've been keeping everyone updated to when POSES are finished, not animated. My job is to clean those up, fix anatomy, and cut them up for animating, and then animating. When we say poses are finished, that doesn't mean they're ready to animate. I have to wait for them to be finished and have variants added before I can start my process. SO, now that S-purple and Subtank have all this month's poses finished, they'll be working on next months so there won't be a delay. I'm not so good as explaining this in words so I'll doodle what's happening.

      https://gyazo.com/26df9f892c37bc1c43902a3785f03730

      Also @Valenti we're not recoloring things, we're finishing their colors. The ferals had more colors than the regular monsters so we had to fix them since the colorpicker wouldn't be able to pick them up.

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    6. @Vanillycake HAHAH that doodle was awesome XD, keep doing oyur thing :) it will get done when it gets done. People should really read up on what the hell goes into flash animation before bitching.

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    7. It's not entirely their fault, January was more of like a fumbly month to initiate Subtank into the process and clean the pipe line.

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    8. Also: Fuck working 10+ hours a day. You don't even get how it works, do you? They don't get all of that. And god forbid they make more than minimum wage! They should for a 40 hour week. That's that. How about you don't be a jerk and force people to work unrealistic hours because you're jealous of the money they make (though, I know that's not much, Vanilly and crew).

      Vanilly and crew: you do you, boos.You guys are getting it done. :) Rock it out.

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    9. Rebecca Muck, it's not me who have put milestone on Patreon that tells "3000$ = Full time job." Now they have 10x more $ per month. You would think that 10x more $ and additional team members will make this project even more productive? I bet. Plus it doesn't matter how much time you spent on project. You can spend 10 hour per day and don't achieve anything at the end, or you can spent 2 hour/day and make significant progress. That's called Management! And I don't see that the Management done correctly. Why don't I see it? Well, because Vanilly told above that they spend ONE MONTH "to initiate Subtank into process". So basically peoples investments (for one month) into that project gone nowhere, let us hope that this "initiation" will pay out at the end, but now that 30k just gone.

      And one more question Vanilly, just to make sings clear, you tell that the finishing colours of mermaid took you (your team) about two months?

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    10. Exactly. If January was meant to "initiate Subtank into process", which btw. I though Subtank has already been working with the team for at least couple of months (why did he need any initiation? He doesn't even stream), then what were the other team members doing? I thought Vanilly is the main animator, and yet January was spent entirely on making the Yuelia animation? What?

      I understand that making those animations takes multiple processes, and only few of them are shown to the public. But at the same time please explain to me how during a whole week Spurple was able to colour 3 pictures? Why don't we see more concepts (I imagine you can make at least a dozen per day, since they're just grey drawings of sex positions)? Vanilly, you were very specific saying that the updates included POSES for the animations, and my question is, does it really take a WEEK to draw and fill with colour 5 pictures?

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    11. > But at the same time please explain to me how during a whole week Spurple was able to colour 3 pictures?

      and that's good example how they are working. I would understand if those were some high quality top tier commision drawing but no... in past spurple was able to draw shit load of pictures with sex pose ideas or monster and now it looks like he don't even bother to do it anymore since "money still is in the bank" or you guys tell him to not draw and give people to much -_-

      also I wonder if you guys gonna even stick to the words "we will do multiple sex scenes to every pairings sooner or later so no worry if some scenes are handjobs or anal penetration"... seeing how you scrapped amazing old dickwolf x fem breeder animation into crappy doggystyle already shows something. I even heard rumors that you won't even do gathering/harvesting animations not to mention sounds/voices. First removal of pregnancy and now removal/scrapping of old features? what the fuck?

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  5. it's only me or they are using the best sex poses only for futa shit just to piss of those who want see some quality straight sex animation? it's not first time that futa x female breeder gets very interesting and sexy position while normal male monster x female breeder gets some boring crap that literally shows nothing.

    futa female dickwolf x fbreeder is super reveling. We can see breeder in full glory, we can see it's vaginal sex, we see bulge, there will be ofc creampie, etc

    and in normal male dickwolf x fbreeder we literally don't see anything special... we don't even know what penetration is this because of angle and mediocore position. Holy fucking shit even old dickwolf x fbreeder had MUCH BETTER sex position and I have no idea why the fuck they changed it into shitty doggy style. Why chance something that was good into much worse version?

    I'm so glad I stopped supporting this bullshit year ago. With all this money they milked during those years they could fucking at least buy kamasutra if they have no idea for good sex positions



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    1. Don't forget that they still have a lot of combinations to make. They can't avoid having some of the positions more boring than others.

      I guess let's just see what the future ones will be like.

      I just hope they would speed up a bit, because as I understand this post, no animations are done yet?

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    2. Even they got a lot of positions to make, you still going to see only one sex animation for dickwolf. So imagine if what left for dickwolf is just a crappy animation, how can you expect people will not getting bored? I agred with Ezro Ezro. This pissed me off too. I don't have grudge for futa things but to see they got more spotlight and details is unfair for others who is more to straight genre. Still wondering why remove the old dickwolf animation. That is the best one. Plus, apart from titwolf and futa sex scenes, there is nothing new. Hmmm.

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    3. When you think about it, every monster combination will get only one animation. Right now it just happens that the futa monsters got the better positions, but perhaps further in the future there will be nicer animations for the straight breeding as well. Besides I think it's quite fitting that since the Dickwolf is well, a wolf, then the position is doggystyle. Also, don't forget that there will be more combinations with Dickwolf than just FBreeder. It's just one out of 1000+ animations that are supposed to be made (even though I don't think this game will ever get finished)

      And yeah, I agree, there's nothing new. I already commented that on other posts and this one as well. It seems the development team is lazy.

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    4. >perhaps further in the future

      TL;DR come back to BS when you will be 50+ years old, have child and grandchild soooooooooooo maybe this game will be finished and every monster will have more than 1 animation for every sex scene.


      the sooner people will realize that BS is developing in snail speed and stop supporting them the better and maybe BS team will get their shit together and start working in normal time for the money they get every month. Fucking top 5 patreon and they deliver garbage every month

      I doubt that this game will be even finished. I give it 3-4 more years and whole team will get bored as fuck of this project, cancel it get all money they grabbed/milked, disappear and leave in badly looking Alhpa stage. It will be known as legend of biggest deception/swindle of Patreon and overall flash NSFW games

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    5. Positions and all that are highly subjective, to me i think the het scenes are getting the better deal here and also why are you complaining about the het side being weak, het erotica has a much larger library than futa and lez too.

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    6. We are complaining because the het sex didn't get justified like futa and lez. A real sloppy job was done on het animation. I saw the Taurus, kittenboy sex sketches and even the special event armadour for f/breeder are done in way like ezro mentioned for dickwolf scene. Het sex were done lazily and stupidly in term of positions. Glad my friend was thinking the same and will stop funding soon.

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    7. So don't donate. Problem solved!

      IMO, Subtank is doing the new poses, and so far there are... TWO het poses? Three, or four, maybe? Calm the hell down. There is time. Get your panties out of a bunch.

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    8. So don't donate. Problem solved!

      IMO, Subtank is doing the new poses, and so far there are... TWO het poses? Three, or four, maybe? Calm the hell down. There is time. Get your panties out of a bunch.

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    9. No need to tell that. It already been solved. Thank lord my money have been saved. Putting that aside, I have to admitted Subtank are doing a slightly better job in the sex scene compared to rest.

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    10. btw does Subtank is streaming or maybe he posts his job on some private blog? That "Subtank are doing a slightly better job in the sex scene compared to rest" part made me interested in his work

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  6. Hmm, I thought we were supposed to get at least some new animations on January but now it looks like animation stuff is starting to pour in on March? I can't even remember when this game last had significant added content. August? September? Most one man projects get more content every month than this group of 4 gets done in.. 6 months?

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    1. I agree. 2016 was supposed to be "we're rested, motivated, and now we'll do what everyone has been asking for, the animations!" and now it seems like no animations are done yet, and they are talking about concepts for "next months" animations? It's already February, which "next month" are we talking about? Apparently march.

      Also, Vanilly said she is able to make around 7 animations per month. Subtank is animating as well. So I wish to see at least 10 new animations with the next update.

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    2. if you want to play more stable version of this game try version 5.0 or even earlier with old system and older animations.

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    3. Sorry about that, I'll address the issue with the team about changing how they say a pose is finished, rather than a pose is animated. Yes, you'll be seeing a steady pour of 7 animations from me each month from now on now that the team is a month ahead on poses!

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    4. im glad to hear that Vanilly. I get that the artist needs to be ahead of the animator

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    5. 7 animations from me each month from now on
      i doubt that will happen

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    6. I think the same too. From the explaination, it meant the poses for this month has been finished yet can't be animated yet because they didn't add variants yet. It almost look impossible because they just working few hours on it. But it is pitiful when at this point, they still struggling fixing on color coding and work on other stuff like mermaid, and more art concept like roxie mom and breeder parent which I personally think should be put aside until all was done.

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    7. ? None of those things are being worked on, the color coding is finished, all we need to do is add the correct colors in. (Which as been finished now) The poses are finished and cut up so I've been animating.

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  7. At the rate this game is going (no animations finished after 5 weeks of supposed working on animations and adding the new member), I'm afraid this game will never have all of the animations done, and the project will get dropped at some point.

    sad...

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    1. it was obvious like year ago. Sad thing is that brainless patreon sheeps are just keeping this project alive for no purpose instead of letting it die finally. I still curse that day when they decided to scrap whole game system and animations and start everything from scratch like 2 years ago. It went downhill from that day and every update was more and more delays and content was super small and pathetic.

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  8. So how does one get in touch with the developers? It seems like they never address the concerns of their fans, they just keep chugging away at a snails pace and pretend nothing's wrong

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    1. I think the easiest is to catch them during stream, but the problem is they barely stream at a normal time (unless you're in America)

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    2. It's difficult to address a concern when it's been smothered in insults. What did you want to know Ketra?

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    3. Firstly, thanks for getting back to me
      What I want to know is basically:

      What is each member of the team currently working on and what stage of it are they at?
      What is the estimated time of completion of those tasks, and what is planned for after they're done?

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    4. S-purple and Subtank are now working on next month's batch of fbreeder x wolf poses (They'll be done by next month)
      I'm now animating all the fbreeder x cat monsters (I'll be finished at the end of the month to go into the update)

      After that, I'll spend the first week cutting up the wolf poses, then the next 2 animating all of them, so on and so forth.
      Subtank and S-purple will be working on the next batch of monsters x fbreeder

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    5. Again thanks for your quick reply. It may help to calm people fear's if the weekly art update included a slightly more detailed status update from the team members but that's just an idea

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  9. I actually discovered this game a week ago and honestly I was hooked in an instant I played the 5.4 version at first before I even found out there was a newer one.

    it took a while for me to figure to what actually is going on since I was extremely confused when I saw some new designs in the newer version but an incredible lack of animation.

    and after I read the blog as much as I truly love this game I at same time wish I had not discovered it this early, I will applaud the dev team for such an awesome game as the gameplay and animation are of great quality.

    that much I will say.

    however the pace of the update is another matter, I mean one would expect after acquiring a new team member that the update pace would speed up quite significantly and such but to see it's actually the same as it was before from what I read from blog is quite disheartening.

    while we appreciate the weekly update the team give us but the game needs to grow up it's lifeblood is the new content that are Animations and the advancement of its story, just simple bug fixes in nearly every update for a very long time will not do.

    especially the last one.

    nevertheless despite what see now from them, I still hope that devs would pick up the pace, they have the ideas. concept and everything planned out so there is no reason for delays, with Vanilly mentioning she can produce 7 Animations per month and that's only her and the team got themselves another Animator as well.

    I hope they do shed some real light in why the delays or posting animations taking this long, while everyone yes says the team is lazy or such I want to actually hear it from the Team what their reason is.

    I say this because yes I only recently discovered and played this game and perhaps I may not know the team as long as some of the others who commented in this blog but I want to hear it from the team themselves on what is the reasoning of such long delays in the animations when they were promised back months ago only to hear it that we may get them on march as we only entered February.

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    1. Hi there, I'm glad you enjoy the game! January was when our new artist was introduced, and that whole month was getting all the cat monster x fbreeder POSES and VARIANTS done, so now that they're finished with those, and now working on dickwolf, I can spend the first week of each month cutting those up, and animating them to be put into each end of the month update.

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    2. thanks for the quick reply and nice to know the proper schedule of the update, if possible I have one more question, would the included animations only harvesting animation or breeding animations or both??? since you had mentioned you will be working on the Fbreeder Cat monsters, so I kinda wish to know which part we can expect to be included in the next update if possible.

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    3. Me personally I find better animation with the fbreeder

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    4. @Hakkyou NY: I'm 99,9% sure there will only be Breeding animations.
      btw, you can find a tracker here. you could probably imagine almost doubling that would mean probably another year of work

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  11. IF we are getting 7 animations a month, that means fbreeder will be finished in about 7 months. Will we really have 7 months of just fbreeder? I understand the need to go in order but could you throw in a few mbreeder scenes or monsterxmonster scenes just to keep things feeling fresh? It seems like a lot of people are looking forward to mxm scenes so its just a thought.

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    1. Nope, gotta go in order or there will be total chaos. Subtank will start animating too soon so it probably won't just be 7 a month. The 7 is just from me :)

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    2. I appreciate your reply. Im sure people will start calming down as those animation slots are filled.

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  12. I'd like to ask to make bulging optional. I know that you Vanilly talked about it in the stream that it wouldn't be too huge of an issue to do, I just want to make sure to remind you of that before you start animating bulges.

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    1. Id' defiantly second this; I'd think it falls into the category of fetishes that folks might not want to see, so if it wouldn't be too huge an issue to make bulging toggle-able, that would be great. for myself, I don't mind it, but if I had the choice, I'd switch it off - I know there are others who feel far more strongly on both sides of the coin, so having it optional might be best for making the most people happy, if it's not too time and effort consuming to do.

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    2. I love me some bulges, unless they fall too far into the realms of Sparrow :P
      but yeah, options are always nice

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  13. a hardcore animation with the Minotaur would be really great

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  14. gonna give this a couple more months and then will see how things progress as to whether i continue donating, but i believe theres been too much additional growth in what monsters will be in the game faster that what the devs will be able to keep up with which is a shame as i love the concept of the game and would love to see the finished product, but without some major refinement of how they get the finished poses to the animation stage i cant see this game ever being completed any time soon, and by that i mean within 6 yrs, and thats being optimistic about it im afraid to say, as with 7 animations a month it will take 15-17 yrs to complete and thats if they dont add in more creatures/variants and without holidays

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    2. maybe get rid of genderbent and neoteny traits and creatures for the moment, get the main core creatures animated and once the main game is complete you could hire 1 or 2 more animators to then maybe bring out the neoteny and genderbent as addons at a later point in time to seriously reduce the animation workload to begin with

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    3. subtank will start animating soon aswell so the 7 a month comes only from vanilly

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    4. yes i realize this and i was actually about to post that 7 will just be from vanilly, but if vanilly is doing 7 and subtank will start animating but also doing the poses with spurple as well so hes not gonna be able to animate as many each month, so lets say half thats still only 10 a month, if spurple also helps to animate, which i think he has helped before by cutting peices ready to animate, so if we add in another 3 per month to be generous from him as well, we're now up to 13 a month, that is still 9-10 yrs

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  15. I would have suggested having Vanilly do fbreeder animations and Subtank do mbreeder animations (or vice versa) but I suppose if they are all working on the same aspect, theoreticlly, they could complete the fbreeder animations sooner. Im guessing thats the mindset

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    1. The only problem is at the moment Subtank is not yet animating, and it's not clear on when he will start animating.

      Doesn't change the fact that the team would need at least 2 more animators in order to realistically finish this game.

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  17. You guys don't take in consideration the process of how concept and alpha development stages work in software development, especially with softwares like Breeding Season. You also don't take in consideration how the development team approached the publification of their nightly builds and how they adress/ensure the popularity of their game. The entire project is based on one guy's hobby coding a porn game with a lot of wierd fetishes. The project became something way bigger than what would one anticipate from it's origins actually in a relaitvely short amount of time. It also became way more popular than what they originally guessed it would get. That's how the internet works after all. It's now popular enough that it's community alone can grow itself and does not require 3rd party advertisement. Based on these facts i'm almost certain that if everything goes according to the statictics this project will grow even larger which would mean new team members and more effort put into the development which would yield faster phase of work and updates with more dense features. I think the team had a similar reasoning behind the scenes when they started to take this project seriously. Although this foundation is actually pretty fragile. There are many weak points to it. To base the future of such a project on a community which is self sustaining is a really high risk. Depending on the avarage satisfication rate of the community it can either elevate or destroy itself. This isn't something new on this field there have been many examples i could mention for this. This is why other than worrying about the phase of completing the animations the devs should actually worry more about what this entire thing is based on which would be the community they created. Right now the project does not have a PROPER forum with PROPER managament thus PROPER feedback to the community of it's state which i think is pretty clear that slowly but surely startes/already started to destroy the avarage satisfication rate. I guess the next update with new animations is a good start to ease the tension at least now the team understands that one of the most important feature of their work would be the animations. However i'm pretty sure this isn't new to them either. They most likely knew they would have to pick up some speed at some point they just had some inconvenient results due to their inexperience on the whole field. I'm also certain this won't be enough on the long run. If they want to ensure their fragile project won't break becasue of a little crack they should start to ensure it won't get any. They should make use of tools which are more efficient at relaying information and ensuring the flow of information and are more convenient for many. It's way more important than what they currently seem to think it is. You guys should also understand that this project in terms of finances they way they set it up with patreaon is a no lose ensured system. Even if the project destroys itself they will not suffer financial damages which may actually be a factor to their attitude towards the community and the entire thing. If you really want to support and really want to see and ensure a great future for the game one of the most important things you can do is to be patient and create PROPER feedback on features and management. Bitching about things in an uncivilized manner will actually make things more difficult for the devs.

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    1. As a normal person, I can not read what that wall says :/
      please space your sentences a bit :/

      that this is a literal wall of text
      http://webquacker.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/noisy-pure-text.jpg

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