Saturday, July 19, 2014

Male and Female Breeder Models

S has refined the models for the breeders a bit more. As always, let me know how you guys like them (and see if you can guess the references in their school uniforms):


By the way, a lot of people have asked about player customization and that is in our plans, actually. I'm not sure when we'll have it in, but I want to have different hairstyles, eyes, skin-tone, etc that you can pick from. I know a lot of people have asked about body-type variations for the player too, and unfortunately that's more difficult (different body-types can not as easily share the same animations, etc). It's not off the table entirely, but it'll be a long time until you see it in the game. As for boob/dick size variations, that's easier for us than body-type variations, but still a bit tricky. It is, however, something that I know a lot of people want so I do want to do it eventually. Oh, and futa player is definitely a yes, but unfortunately it's another "not sure when, exactly".

108 comments:

  1. I think the lips look really good and sexy. Not everybody has to have the same animelike mouth.

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    1. Hello World

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    2. Would you guys consider adding monster looking similarly (not identical!) to the ones found here: http://lupiesoft.com/menagerie/? Especially Rao-Ji and Asumamiya, these would also be a bit removed from the big hips, big tits, big everything trend (except for the harpy and female breeder).

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  2. Looks great! I'd love to see the female breeder preggo!

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  3. I just wrote this on the previous update but since you just posted newer models, I'll take the chance to restate it here.

    Something about the coloring and contour seems really off to me especially when nude. This goes double for the male variant on spurples blog. It's almost like their heads do not look like they belong on their bodies.

    Like... why is the male's chin and female breasts contour a thin black line and the body a pinkish brown randomly varying sized line? I don't know if it's just that, I'm not really an artist but it seems like the art is inconsistent in a lot of places like that and it makes the whole thing look weird to me. The contour parts that get really thick particularly stick out. Like look at the forearms of the female breeder when in the farm outfit. Why are they so randomly thick in that one picture? It Makes up like a third of her forearm.

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    1. After looking through more images, I think it is indeed more the color of the borders that's throwing me off. The tracing color is way too light for what they're supposed to do and that's why the nude bodies are the ones that stick out for me. The thickness just makes it more apparent in those areas. Also, the inconsistency of using black borders sometimes doesn't help and makes it stick out even more.

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    2. It is mostly S-Purple's style, but it is also because of light/shadows. S uses the thicker lines to kind of emulate the darker shadows, since he uses cell-shading.So for instance the thick lines of the f!breeder's arm is because it is behind her, in the dark etc.

      I feel that the black is just because this is, first and foremost, a mock-up and not the final product, just like the other sketches. SP is mostly looking for the right "feel" in these...in the final he takes care to make it have a whole theme better.

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    3. If you look at some of his older drawings, he uses more black for his tracing, it seems to be more of a thing with his most recent artwork and looks pretty weird to me in some images especially ones like this where there is still black being used even when tracing around skin. Seeing some being black while the rest being a light brown gives illusion to the viewer that the lighter one isn't the same and with the added extreme thickness, it almost comes off as a weird glow instead. Which of course doesn't make much sense in the image. That's why the face of the male doesn't look like it belongs on his body and that's why the female's breasts looks really weird. Also the female with the farm uniforms forearms look like glowsticks because all the rest of the tracing is consistent (more or less) until you get to the really thick light brown forearm lines.

      I'd love to chalk this up to style but it's coming off as more of a mistake to me...

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    4. I think that either type of outline would be fine, but it looks very odd when both are used in the same game, a hundred times moreso on the very same character model.

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  4. I like how the female is less dwarfish and more tall/slim looking

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    1. Absolutely! "Dwarfish" perfectly describes the last/actual female breeder. The new draft is just about PERFECT!

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  5. Uniforms on the right from Vampire Knight?

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  6. The uniform is worn by Filia from Skullgirls. Good stuff!

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  7. Gotta say I like the previous refinement more. The face has more character.
    Source: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-FaDto7dCclY/U8nwhVf3nFI/AAAAAAAAAS8/uNZMhDDYgz0/s1600/BreederF+V2Wip.png

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    1. I like the one from before as well. It's like she's trying to kiss someone with her eyes open in this version. Perhaps a character customization in the intro screen since, you know, different strokes for different folks?

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    2. I think her lips look great in this version. Very alluring

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  8. Filia from skullgirls
    and it seems to be Main character from Persona 4

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    1. i think that's actually from Persona 3

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  9. I also prefer the first female model. She was way cuter. Please change it back :'(

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  10. Oh god, HE HAS NO PENIS!!! Somebody perform a mercy killing.

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  11. People MIGHT complain, but I'd still like to see a fem futa with no tits being able to pass as a trap player character as a choice, albeit you would need to "reposition" a few animations to compensate for anal.

    As opposed to "a feminine male is too difficult" it's certainly better than nothing. Would like a few opinions on that though.

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  12. On female breeder I liked the other mouth , eyebrows (expression) and body shape better.
    Her other mouth was much more quiet with an almost endearing smile, someone else said it was anime-like, but I think it suits her better, maybe better for ah's and oh's expressions too. This new one has big sultry lips that makes her seem sluttier, which I just don't prefer but I guess they are fine too.
    All in all the old eyebrows and mouth gave the impression of "I'm here doing this weird stuff thanks to my parents but I'll plow through" which I loved.
    As for the body, recent one had much better thighs, so thick yet still acceptable on her body type.
    But these are tiny minor complaints and the new one is just fine enough.

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    1. You probably just forgot to roll back her foreskin when bathing her.

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  14. The male breeder looks awfully derpy.

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  15. I think the Breeder should have a menu showing the belly/ vagina/ anus status like Violated heroine. You know, showing a x-ray image of the uterus. http://1-media-cdn.foolz.us/ffuuka/board/a/thumb/1344/87/1344874430742s.jpg

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  16. New face for female breeder is awfull D: Change it back, please.

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  17. A small reduction on the lips might be good. What white girl has natural big fat lips like that? Normally black girls would have big lips like that. Try taking a look at Kelly Clarkson's lips as a reference.

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    1. Just because she has pale skin doesn't mean that she is 100% white. She could quite easily have had latina or yes even black parents or grandparents. Also this is a fantasy world. That means fantasy facial and body structures for races. And also a "Fantasy" world, and would you rather see horse-cock sliding between fat, cock-sucking lips, or between thin, librarian lips?

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    2. what the above anon said. plus, plenty of white people have lips like that? i'm white and my lips are about that thick, same sort of shape too.

      personally i really like the lip thickness on the new female breeder, but i don't love her expression so much. it seems a little vacant!

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  18. Breeders looks wonderful.
    Will naga ever be considered as a possible monster? I mean when the focus swings back to new monsters, of course.
    I think S-Purple's style would make a beautifully curvacious naga/lama :)

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  19. Cool the male breeder looks like the main hero form Persona 4 and the female breeder looks like a girl from Skullgirls. The character customization sounds petty sweet i'm sure it will be awesome to see later down the road.

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  20. Oh wow, Liking the look of the new breeders, both of them.

    Though crotchless M!breeder is a scary thought, If you think about it :o. I'm just gonna say it is safe to assume there'll be something down there when he is implemented in the game~

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  21. I'm diggin MB's suit jacket.

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  22. OH MY GOD CAN WE GET A NEW UPDATE ON THIS SITE? It's been about a month and a half since the previous one.

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  23. I prefer the old female face

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  24. not loving the school outfits personally.

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  25. With the custom character will the human beast hybrids pick up more breeder aspects?

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  26. Looks great, the female breeder looks much more attractive, the only thing that is off is settling for sex animations between a creature that has a dick and another that has a hole, and the sex animation not involving penetration (i.e. the dickwolf/f-elf one)

    I remember a 4.3 version where even harpies/catgirls involved penetration, and all pregnancies involved creampie animations, and a cumshot outside when it failed; Not just a penetration=preggers like now. Please fix that. lotsa ppl would be grateful

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  27. I like this new face, especially the more noticeable freckles. So cute!

    I agree the expression is a bit 'sluttier', but to be honest, that's actually closer to the original look of the breeder, and I don't think it goes so far in that direction that you can't imagine her as a reluctant participant in the breeding trade. The other face was TOO innocent.

    Until character customization is a thing, people have to use their imagination to make the default model fit their fantasy. That means that ideally, the face should work equally well for the wanton and the virgin. I think this does.

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    1. Very good analysis here, which I'd like to expand a bit.
      The big sultry lips does bring her visually closer to the original look (she looked like a super slutty country girl), but one thing that stuck with me is how she interacts in the Harvest animations with the monsters. She looks like she knows what's she's going into, but there is still a bit of "yikes and now I'm getting fucked by the monster" (and enjoying it) after getting the cum-harvesting part done. Which speaks to the feeling that I talked about earlier (I'm here doing this weird stuff thanks to my parents but I'll plow through)
      It's not like she's a virginal girl getting raped, she's still enjoying and all but that's where I wanted to go with my other point.
      The sultry lips give the impression that she's there saying "ok, where are the monster dicks, I'm going to leave them all dry" which is a bit on the other side of the spectrum. Closer to the old look but farther away to my interpretation of her personality.

      But all in all you are completely right in that it is reduced to the internal fantasy the player is imagining for her. And it is a matter of taste if the recent face is too virginal or innocent enough to be the middle point, or, the new face is too slutty or sexy enough to be the middle point.
      I guess people can say that we are over thinking this way too hard.

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    2. Ironically enough, that's the detriment of hartista and spurple showing so much of the this early.

      Back when the first alpha showed up, everyone was all like "omg best game ever, and it's only alpha!!!" People were using their imaginations for the gaps, And it was awesome.

      Now that everyone CAN influence things, suddenly the art needs to have every tiny thing they want. And now no one's ever happy.

      In summary.... The art is awesome spurple, keep it up!

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    3. Yep. Overall I really love the new art compared to the old, and I can't wait to see where the game goes next.

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  28. I really don't like new female breeder's lips and eyes. She looks like a dumb bimbo.

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  29. Female breeder makes me want to play Skull Girls >_>
    If I'm right, a non-backer update is due for the 26th :D

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  30. This fembreeders new face just looks so... Vacant. I don't like it at all. The old one was very expressive, and I feel like no matter what this girl does it's still going to be a vacant expression.

    Also, "All in all the old eyebrows and mouth gave the impression of "I'm here doing this weird stuff thanks to my parents but I'll plow through" which I loved." I had to quote this because that's my feelings, exactly. Maybe it's not for everyone, but I don't think anyone really DISLIKED it like the new face.

    Besides, I thought the player character was modeled after the idea of "girl/boy next door"? I thought every NPC and monster appeals to some fetish in some way, and I think having the breeder be the single "girl next door" was genius. If people want her to be sexier then sure, character creation options, but I really really don't think that should be the default.

    Although, I wouldn't mind the option to let my girl next door breeder gain sexier features and body after mothering a few monsters ;) But that would be a long ways off.

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  31. Overthinking? Maybe. But if the art makes the difference between some or most players seeing the character as "super slutty country girl" (in your words) and "newbie" (paraphrased), then it's not the internal fantasy determining how players see the art, it's the art determining which internal fantasy the players use to see the character.

    I know if I had joined when she looked like a slutty country girl, or maybe even as this picture shows her, I would just use a tired old fantasy and see her as in the job for sex sex sex. But I didn't, I saw her more like you did, and I'm glad. It's a much more interesting character that way I think.

    Anyways my point was that I think this is important discussion, not really overthinking. I'm probably not the only one who would determine her character in my head based on the art, and for the main character that's pretty important.

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  32. My bad, that was a reply to "Very good analysis here, which I'd like to expand a bit."

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  33. when u will put the female demon ?????

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  34. I think it might do good to make the males mouth a bit smaller. its out of proportion with the rest of his facial features and I think that's were people are getting the "he looks stupid" attitude. as for everything else, great job.

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  35. Hi (sorry if the last one did really post and i am spamming) the female can breed Fem x Male and Fem x Futa thus being able to breed with really every race/monster type. While the male can only breed Male x Fem. I suggest a trade off maybe a higher fertility rate idk, just wanted to say that

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    1. Male can breed with futa as well.

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    2. Yes but the male cannot breed with a male, point being a female can have any race of child, and a male breeder cannot birth a male (Unless the skill changling is present)

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    3. Sounds like you're wanting mpreg content, AKA butt babies XD
      Thing is though, I don't think they're planning to add content THAT far removed from reality. Best you might get is a butt full of eggs from a feral insectoid someday, most likely.

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    4. He's saying the male breeder has fewer options, since some species are male-only. No cunt wolves or butt mares.

      On the other hand, he can knock up as many monsters as he can, where the female is limited to one pregnancy a week. Maybe it evens out?

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    5. Wait are you suggesting a male breeder should get prego was well!?

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    6. To the fourth anon H-bomb said the idea of adding more gender's to the current and future monster's sounds like a good idea it just depends on how they spend their time for now.

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    7. To the third reply. Female can't breed with female. Male can breed Female and futa. Female can breed male and futa. That's it. There's no advantage or disadvantage to male or female breeder.

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    8. This^

      Only difference in case of the male is a that the female/futa creature is the one that gets pregnant and that birth "might" be immediate.

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  36. Hey i whoud like to work with you, i have some editing skils and i think you coud use some extra hand. I rely like this project i whoud like to put something from me to it ( :D )... But i can't find any contact to you or mail so i post here.

    Here i've donte some modifications from you original as a test to my skills.

    1. New Color variant for dickwolf and Cat Girl http://oi60.tinypic.com/6j3x53.jpg

    2. New Pregnant Breeder http://oi61.tinypic.com/1498bjq.jpg

    3. More Moture Harpy (i mede this becouse the original concept look a littke to childish) http://oi59.tinypic.com/2pslvv5.jpg

    4. And becouse you are planing to add male charatcer Pregnant Cat Girl http://oi59.tinypic.com/1h2p7m.jpg

    If you whant to cantact me please send me massege to coldnewvision@gmail.com

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    1. LOL, some people are really fucking delusional. (Yes, I mean you)

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    2. I think that ad least his Harpy is better then original kiddy-like, the rest are trash in my opinion.

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    3. Nope. Nope. Noooope. And more nope.

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    4. I think that idea about adding white cat girl and white dick wolf isn't that bad. Im personaly tired a bit that white hair elf and black dick wolf can produce a yellow dickwolf, or a black cat gril with withe haired efl boy can produce blue cat girls
      An idea about white versions of cat girld and dick wolf whoud be good experionaly id it will be suported by some sort of ligic, for example white cat girl and white elf boy can produce only white cat girls/elf boys. The same thing shoud be done to existing color versions, blue dick wolf shoud pass a blue color not yellow or green xD

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    5. It's been said that colours and such don't inherit properly yet since the sprites got overhauled.

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    6. Why so? The edits look bad.

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    7. Can you specify ? I mean ok everyone may like it or not, but is there any "reason" behind your assumpion or ony "it looks, bad becouse it's looks bad". xD

      The cat girl, dick wolf and Harpy look good in my opinion, preggo edit need some more editin. xD

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    8. 1. Cyan's a terrible colour when used too much. And in this case, it's WAY too much.
      2,3,4. The edits are really, really obvious. Like tools other than the pencil were used to make them.

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    9. 1. why terrible color ? xD
      2,3,4. ekhem, do you realise that this game was dany with more stuff then just a pencil ? xD Ad least coloring was edinted not mainted becoise if you look carefully there are even signs of editings tools in orginal arts xD

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    10. You are obviously way too young and dumb to be here, just leave.

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    11. The sprites sure as hell aren't done with brushes. You can clearly tell when you zoom in on them.
      And cyan's a terrible colour because look at it. It's obnoxious and super bright.

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    12. Here's a quick review:
      1- The only problem with your colour is that it has the brightness of a 1000 suns. It's so brilliant that only the blind can look directly at it, and they'll probably be able to see it too
      2- Not bad, but your edit is in a different resolution
      3- Not a bad idea either, but again the resolution difference makes them look like tits from minecraft
      4- Lots of flaws here, your shadowing/hashing here is worse than that of the very first version of this game.

      Don't take this as trolling, but as a direct way to tell you that you're not suitable to be part of this project. Kudos for your willingness and efforts; suggestions are always welcome to be discussed here.

      ps; by rejecting your request to join, I am in no way representing Hpb or his team. I just wrote this while I was masturbating (none which was to your pictures).

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  37. I think the female breeder is all right (way prefer her body type) I agree that the other face had more charm but this one is equally as cute/good looking imo.
    My real issue lies with the male breeder, in that it doesn't seem like he has any sort of personality at all. He's just bland. Maybe it's just because I'm not into blondes? :S I get that he's a male player stand in but he just looks...boring.

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    1. Hey im the guy whou made an offer above, and as and editor i must say that this guy/girls are redhead in this versions (light redhead but still) girl was blonde before xD

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    2. If she was a blode (and also a guy) she whoud have hair color like this :

      http://pl.tinypic.com/view.php?pic=anr40&s=8

      And it take my 1 min to edit xD

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    3. My god that new face makes her look like a bimbo! o_o Change it back please!

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    4. I don't know, i only changed hair color. I did not changed the face xD

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  38. On another note, I don't get why some ppl liked the earlier model?
    She was chubby as hell and had the dumbest look on her face that could only be matched in real life by a moronic religion debater in the Youtube comments sections.

    Newer model looks good, and what everyone is doing is putting it down because of a facial expression that will always change during animation. Hpb even said that you'll be able to customize the breeder's eyes and other parts soon enough. So give him a break and pick something more worthy to complain about.

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    1. Im the editor guy :D

      I think that there's why they are planning to add custumization to a model and problem solved, one fuy whoud like "cute-girly like" type, another whoud like "more agressive, more mature" type xD

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    2. I think I need to clarify a bit.
      There are 4 fem breeder designs so far:
      1. First one that Hartista did, the original skinny country girl with huge boobs and hips who visually fits in a sex sex sex game.
      2. Redesign from S-Purple, here she has her silly socks on and those proportions who some people have accused of looking like a dwarf (I think this is the one you are talking about?)
      3. Recent wip from S-Purple, this is the one most of us are talking about here when we say "older" or "recent" better proportions, good boob size, warm smile, small lips and city-girl-moved-to-crazy-sex-farm newbie look, this is the one I like and others have commented about.
      4. Most recent wip from S-Purple which you see in this very post from Hartista, this one has big lips, fixed feet, not so wide thighs and less innocent eyebrows.

      As I said I'm fine with the new design too, its just that I feel version number 3 has a special something about it that ties in with the lore. Not really putting the new one down, I just like the discussion.

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    3. Given that she's the daughter of somewhat famous breeders, we would expect her to have generic advantages. Yet, she's also an innocent city girl. So, I would expect her to have generous lips, figure, etc, but an innocent expression, including eyebrows. Personally, I like the narrower hips a little better, but probably the wider hips are more appropriate. Boobs at least this big, and full lips seem right on, which also fits my preferences. The freckles are a nice touch, heightening the innocence, even though they're neither here nor there.

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  39. I tried putting the old lips on the new face... take a look at this: http://i.imgbox.com/wdJwvzRt.png

    I think it looks better than both the old and new faces personally! Do you think something like this might have a chance of being the default face for now?

    ~Jazzmine

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    1. Woa! this looks really good! I would say perfect!!!! PLEASE!!! STAY WITH THIS!!!!!

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    2. I've got no problem with the full-lipped face, but I do really like this as a compromise.

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  40. have you thoought about maby making them look more like one of the monsters a little bit like the more the female gets ass pounded by the butt stallion the more she looks like one maby 1 in 10 chance of slight change until she looks like she is mostly that monster may be a bit hard to get into animations but would still be a good idea and the way people view you changes the more u look like a monster and once u become full monster u get captured and put in a monster farm yourself little irony thrown in there but u get the idea

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    1. That would be way to much work and doesn't really fit the theme of Breeding Season.

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  43. Also, I don't care that much because it's not really my thing, but I think the male protagonist should look innocent like the female protagonist does, and it seems like most of the people who do care agree. (Though, feel free to correct me, fellow anons)

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    1. I Anonymously agree!

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    2. Three out of three anonymice agree!

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    3. I can't rhyme like anonymous#3, so I disagree

      (I realize the irony that it rhymed)

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  44. I still think that Female 18/07 face looked better, more delicate!

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  45. These models looks great! I like the new female model, finaly face is nice for eye, finaly body that doesn't look like big fat pig. Good job!

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  46. Other than the mouth looking a tad too big for his face (and the current lack of manparts), the male breeder looks amazing! The female breeder looks great, too, but I'm personally excited to see how the male holds up.

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  47. Hey, in the future, will we be able to capture or buy humans and breed them?

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  48. Why the pouting mouth? The lips look like she just came from a plastic surgeon.

    Otherwise, good.

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    1. I don't think the lips are nearly at the plastic level, and they don't think they look all that pouty, either; more like uncertain of what exactly she's witnessing, which I think is perfect. Anyway, just my opinion.

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  49. Outside of her chest, the female breeder's body looks so child-like in this rendering that I'm a bit creeped out.

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  50. What happened to the female breeder's cute face? Now she looks like one of the dumb bimbo animals she is breeding. This is awful, please change it back!

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  51. Sorry, but the male breeders can mate with others creatures??

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  52. so eventually you'll be able to change the breeder's breast and dick size's? if so sweet

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  53. This seems like a good idea. please make it happen. if it already is how do i change it?

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