Sunday, June 8, 2014

Status Update

Still working on getting 4.8.2 together, I'm going to try to get it up before I go to sleep tonight so it may be up around 1 or 2 AM. If I absolutely can't manage to put it up tonight it will absolutely be up tomorrow (Monday) night. When I put 4.8.2 up I'll also put up the next public release along with it.

In the meantime, you guys may enjoy the holstaurus facial variations that S has put together:


Also, here's a sneak peak at some rare monster variations we've been thinking about:


EDIT: Sorry about the delay again guys, haven't been feeling well and I conked out early on accident. Will get the update up in the next three or four hours here.

EDIT2: It's about 10:00 AM on Tuesday and I'm having trouble staying conscious, really sorry. I should have it up by tonight and hopefully this damn fever will go away.

91 comments:

  1. Thanks for the update, HB

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  2. Meanwhile, I can't draw a tree to save my life.

    This 'rare monster' biz is quite interesting. I hadn't expected them to differ so drastically. And different types? My, my.

    Updates appreciated. Both status and actual game.

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  3. Looking pretty great. The Demon Type is interesting.

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  4. Is that.... Yes it is! Butt stalion from borderlands :D
    Only its tail looks a bit wierd, like a lizards tail or something.

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  5. Such variation, much rare, very wow

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  6. SHIT.... i gotta get a work and a credit card soon

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  7. Dickdoge, lolz. I don't know, what type of nightmares has S-Purple had recently, but I definitely like his new ideas.

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  8. U N I C O R N OuO B O Y S

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  9. I love everything about this rare variations biz. Moar.

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  10. Keep up the good work :) . But i'm curious to see the female feral monsters :P .

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  11. I don't think you should give any definitive deadlines if you plan on procrastinating every time.

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  12. Lol, tails. I wonder if sonic will come in too? The faces look good. The bottom middle one is getting close to ahegao which would be awesome. Just a little more and I will be a fappy camper.

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    1. The filename indicates it's doge, not Tails.

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  13. Ah late again. I honestly don't get why you don't add 3-4 days to the date you are sure you'll release content? I mean, come on man. You've been at this for a while now.

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    1. Why don't you just add 3-4 days to his deadline? I think he should keep his deadline and if he's a little late, then no big deal. Remember that there is more than one person working on this, everything needs to be done and he has to quality check everything before its posted. So 2-4 days late isn't that bad when your talking about software deadlines.

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  14. just a question, no criticism here. Will you implement the breeder pregnancy after you finish all the monster updates. To be honest, I like games with lots of the features, and the breeder pregnancy feature sounded interesting. doing a good job on the new monster art and the npcs as well.

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    1. Breeder Pregnancy has already been implemented.

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    2. i don't know if it's supposed to tell you if she's pregnant, have stages of pregnancy, or even have a count down date til birth.... if it's there, i don't know where; i was just confused cuz i didn't really understand the whole thing. sorry for not explaining in more detail what i meant.

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    3. When the impregnation is successful, you get a screen telling you as much along with "this is highly unusual." Takes about a week, I think, for the birth. The benefit is that the offspring has a chance at having two unique traits, one of which I fricken' love.

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    4. thx for the information; now i understand

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  15. lol@Dickdoge you guys are the fucking coolest!

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  16. well doge looks awesome but i think it should be less dark orange

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    1. RunningAroundInCirclesJune 9, 2014 at 10:16 AM

      It's just a colour variation, isn't it? I believe the main feature is the different head form.

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  17. now pleas add in the Dog-Ending theme from Silent Hill, everytime Doge-Wolf mates :P

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  18. And yet another game dives into the "reptile demon" category. Severely disappointed about that.

    At least the holstaurus art looks good.

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    1. Seriously? We have non-reptilian BASE demons.

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    2. The variations look like transformers--it's a complete boner-kill. They could've gone in a million other directions--what do they do? Scales. I should have expected it...

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    3. Then *GASP* don't breed Feral Demons! There are DOZENS of other monsters to choose from, these are two potential versions of a rare variant of ONE monster.

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    4. The problem is that the so-called "feral" demon types aren't so much feral as scaly mecha. I just don't want dragon fans taking over like every other adult indie game. Demon =/= reptile.

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    5. I don't see the relation to reptiles.

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    6. Okay, no, by default a Demon is NOT a Reptile, but the word/species Demon is so very broad of a covering phrase.

      A demon is nothing more than an infernal entity, a creature who was born in or from Hell, or whatever parallel there is in the universe they're currently being used in. The exact body type is so variable that it's mind-boggling. Just take a look at your average DnD Handbook or demonomicon or what have you, there are dozens of different demon types, and some of them ARE decidedly reptilian.

      That said, as the anon above me said is true, personally I don't see them as overly reptilian bar the Baal-type's tail. Claws aren't something only reptiles have, and the skin isn't really scaley as opposed to molten looking. In fact, the Baal-type is, unless I'm mistaken, a reference to a Balrog.

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    7. ^ This is exactly what I was talking about: tons of options for demons and we're only seeing reboots of old ideas (pit fiend from D&D).

      When I think regular, domestic demon I see something like this:
      http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/daily/mm/mm178_demon2.jpg

      or this, if it HAD to resemble traditional tabletop fantasy:
      http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/daily/ftl/ftl173_devils.jpg

      When I think of feral demons, I don't think of it in the same way I would the other monsters. For example, feral dickwolves drop to quadruped status and move closer in theme to the wilds. Now imagine feral demons moving away from traditional hoof & horn status to something Lovecraftian and not so ordinary as Hell or the underworld...like this:

      http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2013/277/3/1/demon_unit_by_melrubi-d6p7fht.jpg

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    8. What if they want to add regular Lovecraftian thingamabobs and not falsely label em as demons?

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    9. "Lovecraftian" is used as an adjective and not as a noun. To describe a demon as Lovecraftian would not be falsely labeled as long as it contains Lovecraftian qualities.

      To answer the question: Cthulu mythos-inspired creatures would be an awesome addition to the game.

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  19. It would be awesome if Dragon-kin got added to the game. There could be horny ones (ha), winged ones, chinese shenlong ones, and half human/elf ones...maybe with a trait for double penises that doubles impregnation chance, allows an additional creature to be bred at the same time, and gives two harvest items instead of one...please.

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  20. I love the molock type. I hope we may see soon the other loli monster!
    Do you have an estimation of the implantation of loli?

    Anyway great work of the team!
    And don't listen "haters". They don't understand how difficult and long is your work.

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  21. I really dislike the current form of the holstaurus. The proportions make absolutely no sense. It's shoulders/arms/ribs are the same size as catgirls.

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    1. Yeah, I second this. I don't think Catgirls and Holtasauri are different enough right now. Maybe widen the cow's whole body, or maybe even just the waist.

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    2. http://38.media.tumblr.com/d877174dbf19bf4fcf1106443d64f849/tumblr_n43qeyP9Bu1sb49q1o1_r1_500.png

      Seriously, these body types are too similar now? There is a SIGNIFICANT difference here folks. Compared to this, the comparisons of Elf/Breeder/Catgirl were actually semi-valid... (even though they really weren't at all IMO)

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    3. Personal preference talking, but wouldn't want them to jeopardize hips emphasis seeing as how holstaurus will likely be the only hips/ass/"fat" body type to exist in the foreseeable future before being flooded by not-good-for-birthing tiny hips and oh-god-breasts-everywhere girls.

      A little bit wider on the waist would help though.

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    4. Yeah, my only real complaint about the holtasauri is the fact that the waist doesn't look proportionate to her breasts and hips.

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    5. I can't stop laughing. This takes the cake ladies and gentlemen.

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    6. I used to support the complaints to the design half-heartedly. I have no gripes personally, but I can understand the point of many people when diversity isn't met. Now I feel like burning down every "This isn't exactly how I imagine'd it, I'm going to cry and then stop playing forever." post I see. It should be funny but it isn't. They have no basis in reality. I have no nice words for these people any more.

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    7. Welcome to the club, previous Anon. We have jackets.

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    8. TM93, the difference is in size, not proportions. They both have narrow shoulder, big tits, narrow waist, wide hips.

      I made this ages ago to show roughly what a more proportionate holstaurus would look like (broader shoulders, more waist, larger arms).
      http://postimg.com/144000/holstaurus-143684.jpg

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    9. Honestly though, the only real variance is in boob size.

      http://postimg.com/image/152000/blarh-151773.jpg

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    10. Apparently my last message didn't send but oh well. This is going to be my last response to this thread before I really start ranting an:d raving like I've done several times before.

      First Anon after me, you just put absolutely tiny nipples on absolutely massive breasts, so it's still disproportionate in it's own way. And despite the fact that you increased her waistline, you also rounded out her belly button for some reason? And the mere fact that you're calling two girls who have a similar BASIC FEMININE SHAPE the exact same body type (Last I checked, narrow shoulders, wider chest, thinner waist, then wider hips is a pretty basic female shape, despite there being hundreds of very different body types that fall into that incredibly basic and covering formula) is laughable to me, I'm sorry.

      Anon 2, first off, you're using the Fluffdragon's body, which is still at the pure concept art stage and is going to be revised. Second, your image actually proves the point about the Holstaurus' waist isn't nearly as thin as the catgirl's proportionally, as you can see the soft line outside goes further out and makes her thicker, meaning she has a thicker waist. Her shoulders are a bit slim but maybe she just isn't a wide lady (Look at Neoteny, clearly Holstauri don't start off super thick), she's one who's put on a fair bit of weight. Putting on weight doesn't add to your shoulder width by default. If you both honestly can't see the differences in waistlines and hip curvature, I'm afraid I really can't help you here.

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    11. I'm the same for both posts, can't edit the damn things.

      It's funny that you singled out the fluffdragon, it's one of the few that is actually proportioned extremely well. Show me a chubby woman with tiny hips, small shoulders and thin arms. Obviously the bones in the shoulders don't grow, but the fat still does, which gives the impression of wider shoulders. Essentially, what the holstaurus lacks, is the frame to have such boobs and wide hips. It gives it an extremely exaggerated shape. I widened the shoulders, the waist, the arms, and narrowed the hips slightly. That kind of belly button is only seen in extremely obese women, which her body shape is not. She's chubby, but not fat enough to develop that kind of belly button.

      On the forums I explained why I made the nipples smaller. In a nutshell, I'm not an artist. While reshaping the boobs onto the new larger shoulders, I pretty much had to erase the entire thing. I felt that having half a nipple on each boob would distract from the point I was attempting.

      My point was that every monster has the same shape, which is not true for women, and not supposed to be what this game advertises. Here's a better image demonstrating the lack of variety with just the silhouettes of the breast/waist/hips. The only real difference is in how big the boobs are. The proportions of the hips to waist is pretty much identical across all of them.

      http://postimg.com/image/152000/blarh-151813.jpg

      We only have pear and hourglass, with harpies likely bringing in slender in the future. So 2 out of 8 body shapes with 8 monsters so far, hopefully 3 in the future. All that variety!

      http://www.imageconsultingschool.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Female-Body-Shape.jpg

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  22. Please answer me, why butt stalion has human body? I throught horse should be a horse, not a human-with-horse-mask. Please tell me he will have horse body also.

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    1. Do the words "feral trait" have any significance to you?

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    2. I bet it doesn't since he is asking.

      Anon horse body butt stalions will be in the game as kind of like a side variety as what we see above, thats going to be the feral trait, animal bodies

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    3. yes original Anon, you will have horses. It will take longer to get them than the bipedal creatures, but they will exist for your enjoyment none the less. If you dislike the idea of requiring a trait, one not yet implemented in the game, to take the anthropomorphizing away you aren't alone. If the idea of replacing our Stallions with these and getting a longer wait time to get it back is not appealing, that is a legitimately understood grip as well.

      The team seems to be losing their shit a little trying to juggle all the content they need to put in, how fast it can be managed, and the community not pleased till it's done. Once it is I feel it will be a better game, until then... folk aren't going to be satisfied by something.

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  23. Wait what? What is 4.8.2? I thought the next update will be on the 18th

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  24. I wonder if they can turn off comments. It almost seems like a good idea right now. Things have gone from attempting to give helpful critiques to people bitching when their personal fantasy might not be 100% fulfilled.

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    1. Though I'm of the same persuasion I'm not sure if that would hurt or help.

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    2. Define helpfull critique. People bitchin are just as helpfull as people fawning over everything.

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  25. Nice work. You've done it again H-chan, couple of questions though.
    Will variations have the same scene as their main type?
    Also, any news on Male Elf x Female Elf animation?

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  26. So were is the update??

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    1. srsly this is str8 dumb

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  27. Oh noes, developers are about to be taken by terrible disease!

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    1. Who will take charge after the plague has claimed them?

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  28. After a shit day when my boss wants me to:

    1. Convert a 68 topic (like about 500 independent slides) AS2-based multimedia education software to four AS3-based AIR apps,
    2. Develop a HTML5-based logical puzzle game for kids at home as a paid side-project to study fucking JavaScript,
    3. Make a curriculum and educate a bunch of sand-niggers still using AS2 to develop [1.]-ish shit in AS3 (even though I have ZERO experience in teaching, even less cultural experience with Arabs),

    then having to stay overtime because I was late 20 minutes from work (bus came a few minutes too early) and the waitress during lunch started chatting with a bunch of old fucks slowing down servide and adding to the 30 minutes of complementary overtime (basically adding up to a whole hour of extra cocksucking), I come home to find that you had a shit day too, and you weren't able to post the bloody update. (Posted at CET 20:30)

    >FML.bmp

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    1. D-damn o-oniichan you are so cool and independent *sploosh*. This isn't your blog man, who cares.

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    2. Point taken, efficient countermeasures contemplated. Sorry about that.

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  29. WILL YOU STOP BEING STUBBORN AND LISTEN FOR ONCE FOR FUCKS SAKE MAN!! now i got your attention,
    somebody made a great suggestion, it was that you would stop setting deadlines, and make a progresbar. everytime you got something done on the next update, then for example the bar will move from 0% to 15%, and so forth, your deadlines are giving us and you false hopes, i mean, after all of this countless times, you still dont fucking learn , im i stupid or are you just stuborn as fuck? im sorry but its time to make little improvements like these to make your and our life easier. take care man

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    1. Despite the way it's presented, this is a fantastic idea. A progress bar is a great thing. You're not rushing to make any dates, you don't have to cut things you planned on putting into whatever version, and those that view it simply know that 'Y' is done and there is still 'Z' more to do.

      In the time between updates like these here it'd let us know that, yeah, game is being worked on.

      Such a switch, assuming that you don't announce any more "will be up at," would take care of at least half of the rage. People (not saying all, but generally speaking) would be fine with the wait if the delivery date was never announced. They just get impatient when certain expectations have been set.

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    2. Listen to those gentlemen, their words are very truth indeed.

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    3. Agreed. Progress bar.
      Get better soon :)

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    4. One bad thing though, with progress bar he will be forced to Actually do something.. on constant basis.

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    5. The progress bar sounds like a good idea because if I'm paying $10 bucks a month I'd prefer not to be lied to

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    6. You know who else recently implemented a progress bar? Teamfourstar of the DBZ:A fame. In there several years of running now, setting deadlines, then just generalizing and getting content pestered, the progress bar is among the smartest of moves recently.

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  30. somehow you seem to summon those accidents. maybe you could cheat destiny by just saying: 'expect the updates sometime within the next days'
    you wouldn't need to implement a bar and if you manage to bring the update the next or even same day, people will get a good impression as opposed to your image right now

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  31. Short version: go for kanban borad!

    Long version: is long ;)

    H-Bomb, if I'd to choose between those 2 options:
    a) Miss timelines set by myselfe, make useres angry. Change content, make users fear to loos their fetish.
    or
    b) Miss timelines set by myselfe, cange content, and nobody cares.
    I'd go for option a).

    Actually you're in a great position. Developing SW with direct user contact. Users that care for your work, otherwise some wouldn't react as they do. But it's a real pitty, that you get your users and patreons dissapointed about missed timelines so often. Although I like the suggestion of a progress bar and it would help you and us, I'd like to add another option for you to choose from: Go for a simple kanban board approach (maybe adapted later). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanban_board

    You could use the board for your internal coordination (3 or soon 4 people development is much different from a one man show) and for communication with users. You could start with following 4 columns:

    1) Backlog: Tasks/features planned (do not put everything in this atm)
    2) Next Release: Tasks/features you plan to put in the next big monthly release
    3) Work in Progress (WIP): Put cards from 2) in here, if a team member works on it (set a WIP limit for each member, e.g., 3)
    4) Done: Task/features that are done and will get into next release (only if really done, 100%)
    Hold to the promised release times, drop content if necessary (agil SW developemt).
    Keep this board visible and updated for the users and I promise you:
    > Everyone will be more satisfied
    > There will be significantly less complaints
    > You'll have again more fun in programming one of my favorite games :)

    (good work, sorry for long text, spelling, get well, etc.)
    Surume

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  32. I don't know about everyone else but the content I really want into the game first are new animations. Every time I hear about some whole new concept being introduced I tend to cringe a little. While I don't mind expanding the game, what I really want right now are animations. It also feels like he's working on twenty different things simultaneously instead of focusing on one thing at a time. All in all, good game, worth my $1 a month so far.

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    1. Right, from my experience, the more features you add, the fewer you end up actually doing well, and the less likely any of them will work. My advice: expand what you have. Work on the animations between the creatures you have, and finish up the features you have half-implemented. Then worry about adding new ones. A small game is much better than 1/2 of a big game.

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  33. sorry your sick h-bomb, hope you get to feeling better.

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  34. huh
    wonder if it's all free users complaining about the slow progress of update
    cause we all know all they have to do is drag and drop art into game folder
    obviously no frustrating hours of coding and testing nah
    just drag and drop making game is easy

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  35. Hope you are ok H-bomb take it easy don't push yourself to hard.

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  36. try rubbing your earlobes for a minute, its supposed to an acupuncture point for releving fatigue

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  37. Feel better H-Bomb. You and S-Purple have given us plenty of content to keep us amused.

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  38. You know, all these asskissers here would not give you a secont thought if someone notices this actually makes money and decides the do a breeding sex game themselves, with a bit more dedication involved, which would pretty much draw in all the fanbase.

    Yeah I bet there are plenty who claim they wouldn't leave BS, But that's because there is no competition so no choice is yet involved.

    Personally I'm stopping my contribution to this game, I've been supporting since you got the donation system going. Statistically speaking, it's seems to be getting worse. So all the support given seems to have a negative effect. I did not expect you to turn from casual to pro but I did not expect you to go backwards either.

    Good luck to you, you'll need it.

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    1. While I agree that there are blind fools who will shoot down an negative remarks or criticism to he game and its developers and will try to completely negate any benefit that the devs get from them other than inflamed ego and such, and I feel as if some people hint of the whole patreon thing into some weird classism thing rather than just a pile of money the developers use to fund their project (which strangely a lot of crowd funded projects seem to get), you seem to be a little dramatic with the whole "It's all going to shit, I'm taking my money and running before you shit up my space even more." and I think a lot of the people waiting for the game and such have forgotten how early on in development the game is and just how much there is that H-bomb, S-purple, and now Mittsies have to do.

      Currently they are taking the only game made by Hartista by himself and replacing everything from that with better animations and completely new graphics by a new, and now two new members of the games development, which pretty much means they have to take what was already there and scrap it. Then there are all the things he plans to add in like some form of combat system and completely re-working how the creatures stats work, random events and such. From what I see the game is in some form of larval state and the best I can hope for is for the visuals of the game to be reworked in as short as possible and onto building on the existing game and adding some depth to the gameplay and maybe this game can grow to something actually amazing for an adult themed game such as this made by a group of about 3-4(?) people.

      The only complaints I have in regards to the game itself is that (Although I have no Idea how much H-bomb is doing under the hood of his thing.) I am actually sceptical on how long it's taking for seemingly small graphical updates (I imagine it has to do with all the variations of each creature along with the small new bit's of game-play features I've seen in some of the updates. Random events, Guild shit, etc..) and I have kind of just been glancing at this blog along with S-purples every now and then. I like the fact that this game has a lot of support and I want to see it polished so it can grow, and I am willing to pretty much be a human gargoyle eerily floating in the sky still as stone while a church is built under me, especially due to the fact that no one else is doing a project in the 18+ game category with quite as much ambition (which honestly could use some healthy competition to encourage positive and user friendly decisions).

      With the amazing new art being worked in from S-purple and help from the very talented animator Mittsies I can't say that "It's getting worse" is really right to say. It's just getting a bit wider before it goes up. Hopefully they get to the $15,000 goal so they can get a second programmer to help lighten the load on H-bomb and speed things up a bit.

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    2. http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/XhmpBuLj2ds/hqdefault.jpg

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    3. "It's getting worse" is a matter of perspective. What exactly are you comparing? Which part are getting worse and how important they are to you?

      If for example, someone has an elf/holastrus fetish and he hates the new designs, then no amount of other features will matter. It's like your favorite restoraunt changing our favorite dish. Now it tastes horrible to you, but they say it's Ok, because they are now offering a banana split. That's all fine but you didn't go there for a bana split. The restourant may well be overall better, but for him it is worse.
      Hence, why it is always necessary to elaborate and explain how muhc importance specific things have for you.

      Is it better? Worse?
      For me.. dunno. Im divided. Better graphics, new fatures. All sound good. But the game has become less fap-worthy, and for a sex game that's the important part.

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  39. Go fuck yourselves you memespouting faggots.

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  40. Is that.......Butt Stallion?

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  41. The rare type's are vary cool looking but i was wondering H-bomb are you planing to make female Mare's for the Stallions as rare types in the future i notice that the Demons get a female type as a rare so the Stallions must be getting one to right?

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  42. What a surprise. Butt stallions are tall and barrel-chested. Will the original designs never stop?

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