Thursday, May 15, 2014

Status Update

Hey guys, wanted to make an update just to let you know we're all still alive and working :P.

We're still on track for an update on the 19th for patrons. As you may have heard on S-Purple's tumblr, Mittsies will be working with us now as our new dedicated animator! We're looking forward to increasing our animation output moving forward (there will be a few new animations on the 19th, but you'll see them ramp up significantly for our update on the 30th). Eventually Mittsies also plans to be making music for us, which we're looking forward to!

Some of you may have heard that we were having issues receiving our money through Patreon's direct deposit. It seemed to be a problem primarily with Stripe (the company handling the transfer) though we were able to resolve the issue with Patreon directly. We still haven't gotten the money yet, which has caused us a few set-backs and headaches (primarily due to me being unable to purchase a replacement tablet), but we should be able to get that money soon.

Finally, for those of you who haven't been checking S-Purple's tumblr, I'll go ahead and repost some of the cool things he's been showing off recently:


Updated look for the new demons. Females will be a rare variant. They won't be making it into the update on the 30th along with the males, but you will be seeing them soon.


The beach, one of the new areas you can explore.


Hm, doesn't this mock-up looking interesting. Wonder what it could possibly be.

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  1. Holy crap, I thought Sp was just playing around with that mockup. Way to keep ambitious, ladies and gentlemen!

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    1. It's another one of those "far future" things, mind you. We've got a lot to do before we get to it.

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    2. Sounds great! It'll really give incentive to work on existing monsters instead of always trying to breed new ones.

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    3. It's still ambitious, even if it's not a near term goal

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  2. Will the furrier M.Demon redesigns from before be a variant, or are those scrapped now?

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    1. Scrapped for now, they could come back as a variant eventually but it wouldn't be for a long time.

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  3. I am going to guess that the "succubus" is a rare "trait" like neoteny and futa, and if i'm right, do you pretend to be passable for other male only monsters like the dickwolf (so maybe we can get a werewolf like monster girl, similar to the catgirl)? Either way, it looks pretty fucking cool, looking forward the updates.

    PS: I can see that shwi-S-Purple still can't draw hands and feet, hopefully he practices that.

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  4. Even though the male is nearly twice the females size, his waist is only a tiny bit larger than the females. I guess i don't see the obsession with these overly heavy females that all very nearly look the same. This is just reskin of the elf, which was a reskin of the player, which was a reskin of the catgirl. So if your following includes a lot of chubby chasers then i feel you will do quite well. I however do not think the female looks good at all. Her waist is the same size as her thigh and like 1/3 of her hips. I mean the options appear to be heavy set, and extremely heavy set with exception to the harpy. I mean I really liked your rainbowy girl shop owner. I thought that looked fantastic, why can't you draw any of breed-able females with a physique like that. I am just about to drop my support due to lack of variety in creatures. It doesn't matter if you have 15 different species, if they all look nearly exactly the same what is the point.

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    1. You've yet to see a lot of the variation we still have planned. In particularly, we've yet to show any of the neoteny creatures, which will very much fulfill your desire for more Kay-like monsters. Additionally there's going to be the harpies which will be much more of a skinny, small breasted type of monster.

      Just be patient, man.

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    2. You have no idea what the word reskin means do you? The Catgirls and Elves have a bit of a similar body type (there are a few small differences) but the Demoness here takes the curviness to the next level with significantly larger breasts and hips. A reskin would imply literally the same model over and over.

      Also, literally everything H-bomb just said. It's only been two months with two people working on this project, give them some goshdarned time before pulling your support just because the game isn't catering to your every whim right away.

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    3. Catgirls, breeder, elves. Essentially reskins. Also, wtf is up with giant nipples on every monster?

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    4. http://31.media.tumblr.com/7706dd4f4a256d0d1453e17140fb463a/tumblr_n59hhm7Ls61sb49q1o1_500.png

      http://24.media.tumblr.com/1f29dc7851327ada2eb077473011e53e/tumblr_n4pzmxMu2p1sb49q1o1_400.png

      http://24.media.tumblr.com/1000a26a42509b74f0c0d3c973226dc9/tumblr_n4pzmxMu2p1sb49q1o2_400.png

      http://37.media.tumblr.com/8921b890865164fb0bc882088f3dad09/tumblr_n1ntjxnStV1sb49q1o1_500.png

      Can't tell if troll or doesn't know what the word reskin means. These models have pretty clear differences between them, even the Elves and Catgirls, who are the closest to each other in body shape, even if they aren't all the neoteny monsters you seem to want.

      And I don't know how many nipples you've seen, son, but the only ones that are truly massive are the Demoness, with the Catgirl being large but hardly giant. The Holstauri has large nipples, obviously, but she's a big lady. So your nipple complaint is null and void, good sir.

      If I have to get into specifics about the differences, I will.

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    5. Sorry can you honestly tell me that elves and thunder thighs are 2 things you generally associate together? I am not specifically bashing demons with this super large hip look, i am bashing the fact that nearly every female creature presented thus far seems almost 90% the same to me.

      As far as you point to I may not know what reskin means, I think perhaps your and my definition vary slightly. My point is look at the base frame. Do not sight the breast size, or ear shape, or the smaller specific details. Look at the base frame. The player, catgirl, demon, and elves (females) look very nearly identical. The holstaurus (probably misspelled that) is just an overweight version of that they are.

      I highly look forward to the neotany trait i really do, but if i have to breed neotany into every single creature this game has to offer in order for them to not have super thunder thighs. It seems a little ridiculous. Also, I think the male creatures look great. In almost every case it seems the male creatures waist is almost half of the female, they look like a different species their physiques are so so different. I understand males and females have different physiques, and i am accounting for that within my argument here, but not that different. I am just curious why. Why does an elf, a creature known for tall and thin in every lore i have ever known, have giant waist and thighs.

      So if you want my complaint in a nutshell, Every non-neotany female in this game should not have giant hips and thighs. If thats the look you want for the demon and the holstaurus and the catgirl okay. Then you give it to humans and elves. What is next. I have no idea what all creatures are planned thus far, but are all of them going to have this same general physique? The other side of my complaint is how different the males look to the females. Again, i understand males can have giant chest muscles and be super built, and you may want giant breasts on the females. And faces can be more square and rounded. That is not what i am referring too. I understand females have wider hips for child birth. It is not near as extreme as your examples thus far have shown. The example here is the male demon above who only has a slightly larger waist despite the fact he is nearly twice the size of the female. It looks very odd. If the species has large hips, then both genders should have at least some element of it. The alternative is the artist likes wide hipped thunder thigh females and just draws them that way because he prefers it. If that is the case then my support is lost. With as many donors as you have it seems more variety should be in order.

      All that said it is early, but I will only wait so long before I lose interest and drop my funding.

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    6. Because no woman is thin/athletic? I guess it's just too much to ask for a fit woman instead of a neoteny monster. Basically saying if a woman has thinner thighs and smaller boobs they look like a child, which is demeaning.

      Big boobs, big nipples, small waist, large thighs. Which monster does this describe? What's that? Catgirl, demoness, breeder and elves? Fancy that.

      And yes, they do all have larger than normal nipples, which is fine. But in a game that preaches variety, it seems odd that none of them have average / smaller than average nipples. And if you tout neoteny again for this one, see my first statement.

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    7. You know, I was about to type out a even more long-winded response to this, but I'm cutting it back a little.

      You do realize that there are only 4 Female monsters currently in the game. Harpies are one of them, and are guaranteed to be the stick-thin figures you desire. That's 25% of the base models. Then you throw in Neoteny. That's, presumably, minimally 4 models for you to choose from, out of 8 Female Base Models (can't say if Holstarus Neoteny will still be chubby or not, but Elves, Catgirls, and Harpies will most likely be thinner than the adult models). That's right, it skyrockets to 50% of the female models (assuming Alarune, when it's added, will function similarly, and the Female Demon if it DOES get Neoteny) if you count Neoteny. There is enough variety planned, just cool your jets man.

      And Elves are not always "thin and pretty humans". Lately they've been used as just "pretty humans", tits and hips included. And if we wanna get technical, all modern elves from Tolkein onwards go against classical Faye creature lore of tiny little things that rarely got taller than your waist at best.

      If you argue that Neoteny isn't valid for this argument because you have to risk breeding it down, then all complaints about the Female Demon are null and void, as that'd be the same thing. And you're still left with 20% if you count the Alarune. A game isn't going to cater to all your wants, I'm sorry to say.

      And the Breeder? She looks like an average girl to me, perhaps a bit of extra weight, with emphasis on the thighs. Which makes sense, considering her background and work.

      Complaining about the two Patron-paid Monsters is pointless. People paid $300 for those things, they can make them look however they want them to look. That said it's been stated the Fluffdragon is going to be toned down a little, so rejoice, thin body and/or small breast lovers, that's another monster for you to enjoy.

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    8. So why can't there be a trait in the opposite for several monsters? Instead of a rare trait bringing about thin monsters, have there be an obese one. You can get all your thunder thighs and boobs if you breed for it. You have an extremely biased position.

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    9. Honestly, if we're talking about elves, you probably have a point. That body type doesn't even remotely make any sense for elves. Maaaaybe the catgirls...The rest I'd disagree. Not that I wouldn't personally prefer some of the other monsters to have different body types, it's only that the body types are not out of the ordinary for their monsters and I do think it should be up to the devs.

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    10. Because none of these monsters, bar MAYBE Holstaurus, are actually obese?

      And this is already how H-bomb has planned the game, you're still getting your preference. It'd be absolutely stupid, and an unnecessary strain on the team, to inverse it just to please people who, honestly, make up a relative minority of the Patrons. My position isn't biased, it's logical.

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    11. Also, monsters react, both in behavior and partially in their appearance, if memory serves of the game's lore, to the natural emotions and the like of humans. Humans have pent-up lust and sexual desire. BAM. Elves get stacked as a natural reaction in this universe. Harpies still need to be thin because, well, they have to fly. And again, there are more common cases of elves breaking the once-set-in-stone Tolkein archetype nowadays.

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    12. I just looked it up, there are 1565 patrons donating and i am currently one of them. At the current rate of donation this formerly 2 now 3 man team is going to make more than $120,000 a year. That is $40,000 a person less any development costs. I don't make anywhere near that working a regular job. So this game is funded by the patrons and in some sense should have more diversity to satisfy all the tastes of they very diverse group funding them. unless they want to exile a particular group of people who will drop their support and leave.

      I am not saying everything in this game should have all the physique of your average twig. I am saying I want diversity. You say just neotany anything you want to look like that. I like the loli look a lot, but sometimes i would rather have a more mature looking female whatever that isn't fat. And the alarune, A PLANT, has wide hips... that doesn't even make sense. In this case the PLANT really should have the physique of a twig, because it is one.

      "And Elves are not always "thin and pretty humans". Lately they've been used as just "pretty humans", tits and hips included"

      Great so modern era has made it so even the tall and thin elves look like overweight humans with pointy ears. It is now just accepted everything is just going to be fat even in a fantasy world. Great.

      "And the Breeder? She looks like an average girl to me, perhaps a bit of extra weight, with emphasis on the thighs."

      In you OWN COMMENT you called her overweight. Why does she have to be overweight? It is a fantasy world. Sounds like artist choice, which again is fine. Unless the artist chooses to make every female in the game that way. Also average for where? The United States? China? Depending what country your from that breeder could be a fat monstrosity compared to the average population.

      "A game isn't going to cater to all your wants, I'm sorry to say."

      As a completely funded game it shouldn't cater to all my wants, but it should cater to some. Lets throw this shoe on the other foot. What if the artist made all the girls have the physique of the harpy. Would you still be up on your high horse saying "you can't always get what you want" or would you be commenting that perhaps some of the females could be bustier. Also, before you go off touting the future neotany is the solution to all my problems, I like the look of very average female appearance as well. Why does it have to be 1 extreme or the other on nearly all of the designs.

      "Complaining about the two Patron-paid Monsters is pointless."

      In all fairness i didn't even mention these before, but i will now. I thought those 2 monsters were the best of the lot presented thus far, even over the harpy. That being said, I still felt they were on the heavy side. You said one was getting slimmed down. That would put it where I think it would look pretty nice.

      "It'd be absolutely stupid, and an unnecessary strain on the team, to inverse it just to please people who, honestly, make up a relative minority of the Patrons."

      This statement doesn't address anything I stated and is completely unsubstantiated. Who says I am the minority? Maybe I am the only one willing to comment on the matter in such an outspoken way. It could be your way of thinking is unique to you and everyone else feels closer to my viewpoint. Generally speaking though it is probably pretty balanced on peoples viewpoints on too heavy/fat or it is fine. Also, a strain on the team, they are getting paid... well.

      "Full Time Job
      $3,000 per game content update"

      Straight from the patron website, they are currently making 3.5x that amount. HartistaPipebomb and company can sustain themselves off this money and concentrate on the game. If they are getting stressed out over this then they cannot handle day to day life. I have more faith that they can handle their lives and work with constructive criticism.

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    13. So listen, everything doesn't have to be way too heavy or way too thin. There should be something in between. I am not saying something shouldn't be on the heavy or thin side. I am saying there should be something for everyone that doesn't involve breeding a trait into every creature. I will probably have nothing to do with Holstarus when i play this game, but it doesn't mean I think they shouldn't exist in their current incarnation. Some people probably like that kinda thing, I am not one of them. So go ahead have these, in my opinion, obese female creatures. Do not make them all look that way. I am looking forward to the very thin/young creatures, but don't make them all look that way. I also look forward to some creatures in between. Something I don't want to see in neotany, but as a mature creature. I am just worried with the proposed idea of what an elf looks like to the artist that this project is going down a dangerous path. A path where everything in the game is either going to be an young stick or a massively obese mature creature. So HartistaPipebomb and SPurple if you are reading this please don't make neotany your end game for people who don't feel this style of female looks good. Put in some far more average physique female creatures.

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    14. Okay, you're nitpicking there and you know it.

      It is presumed that the people who are bitching about pulling their funding are the minority for two reasons. One, people are more willing to complain when they are upset than compliment and respond when they are satisfied. Two, it's a fact that, this being a porn game, the majority of people will be after above-average-to-curvy girls. Look at the vast majority of porn out there. It's got women with big tits, and big butts. There's a reason for that.

      And like I said, 20-50% of the models will fit your freaking criteria, they're not ALL going to be these supposed "obese" models you see them as. You just have to wait. People who have a futa fetish are also going to have to breed for it, and they've always had to breed for it, and I don't see them complaining about it.

      "A bit of extra weight" does not mean 100% overweight like the Holstaurus. That doesn't mean she's OBESE, as you seem to think all these monsters are. If you, in all honesty, think the Elves, Catgirls, Breeder, and the like are obese, you have some serious issues with how you view body types. Seriously, why are so many people considering curvy to be obese nowadays? By the way, you don't see the chubby chasers complaining that the Holstaurus is the only monster to really address their fetish do you?

      And read the freaking news, they have also had trouble with the first few payments, they can't just up and quit their jobs for a full time job if they aren't getting any money, so yes, the first few months are going to be slower for updates.

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    15. The only thing getting slimmed down on the Fluffdragon are her breasts.

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    16. Well i can clearly see all my points were wasted on you. Your continuous unsubstantiated claims about what the"majority" want. It is like listening to a conservative interview a liberal on the news. The conservative makes a point that has some thought and reason behind it. The liberal vomits up a bunch of nonsense and doesn't address the point that was made. You continue to claim neotany will answer my wants, did you even read several sections of my above post? Also again, not overweight for where? You looking at only the United States general physique? Look at some of those Asian countries over there. Americans are quite large in many respects to them. America is the second fattest country on earth, so not a good comparison point. The vast majority of porn out there isn't an animated fantasy world farm breeding game either. Something i didn't address is the more feral nature i see a lot of people asking for which is a valid criticism in o that's right A FARM BREEDING GAME. Honestly, if everyone just sat around agreeing everything looks great all the time because they didn't want to offend the artist or step on any toes, Then the artist would never know what people were after. That is why forum pages like this exist, so the game devs can test the water on things and adjust accordingly. I waste my time with you though. You will respond again with a bunch of nonsensical bullshit and claim I am some minority group that doesn't matter and just wait for my neotany. If the artist agrees with your viewpoint and continues this path i drop my funding. It is as simple as that.

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    17. Everything looks great.

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    18. Easy solution : stop playing the game, find another one more suited to your taste and stop funding. :) Easy as that!
      Most people, I imagine the creators included, don't give a shit about your ridiculously specific idea of what the game should be like so that it caters to your fantasy, and your fantasy only.
      I really doubt the lack of one asshole's pocket change is gonna affect funding that much, considering the game is growing in popularity (and patrons) every day.

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    19. 1. Don't insult each other, this discussion can be easily had while treating each other like adults.

      2. We are extremely, extremely aware of the fact that people who are looking for skinnier monsters or more monstrous monsters are displeased with the amount of variation in the game and with what we've shown in concept art currently. We will continue to expand the amount of variation until we can reach a point where we're catering to as many tastes as we reasonably can. On the downside; this will take time, and I will be honest in saying that it may be a while until a monster/variation that appeals to your own specific tastes is available in the game. That said, we want to get there, and we are paying attention to your feedback.

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    20. I think the problem lies with the existing monsters, Harista. Some of them have ridiculous huge and disproportionate booties when it doesn't fit the monsters. Elves are the biggest offender. While you're still early in their development, you should look to tweak their sizes a bit.

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    21. We're happy with the way our elves look currently, even if it doesn't fit the normal expectations for body types for elves in fantasy. That said, we're very open to having other monsters with body types that fit the more skinny/tall/willowy body style.

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    22. I was going to let this guy go and move on, but i have one comment here in regards to what was said

      "Most people, I imagine the creators included, don't give a shit about your ridiculously specific idea of what the game should be like so that it caters to your fantasy, and your fantasy only."

      My ridiculously specific idea of what the game should be... I asked for variety. To not have the same body type as the last. So that a wide range of people could find something they liked in the game. That is some kind of esoteric view? To ask to have something for everyone? Do you even read these posts? It hurts my head to even try and consider what goes through your head before you post this stuff, this is the nonsensical bullshit I mentioned above. By the way this is also putting words into other people's mouths and again unsubstantiated. O right, then proven wrong by a post by HartistaPipebomb. You would make a great liberal politician you should try it out, they always look for people that have no idea what they are talking about and shut other people down for sharing a viewpoint that doesn't agree with you.

      And HartistaPipebomb, that decision on elves is odd. I do not know why you would take a creature and change everything it stands for for your game, it seems you could of made another fictitious creature and made it look like that and left the elf for one of these future thinner creatures you mention. That being said I would ask that in your near future development that you do not keep coming out with busty humanoid looking creatures as it would be disappointing. I am sure not just me is excited to see these other creatures whether they be thin or feral or average or tall or short. If you keep pumping out more reskins people might feel that is all the game is going to be and become dejected and drop funding. I have no intention of that being a threat or in some way to coerce you into changing what you are doing. Just some constructive criticism from a fan that really wants you to succeed and see all what this project can be.

      Now I am awaiting for future liberal politician person to come in and shut me down and say something random and stupid that doesn't even pertain to anything I wrote in this post.

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    23. Actually, that guy wasn't me. I stopped posting after *checks* "Okay you're nitpicking now and you know it" The two anons below that weren't me, and I do apologize for my short fuse on all my posts (not all of them were mine but most of them, namely the long-winded ones) above that if they came off as crass or rude. The curse of posting anonymously. Screw it I'll use the name/url from now on exclusively.

      Although I do have to say one thing, the catgirl's thighs aren't actually that massive, at most a bit larger-than-average. They do give the illusion however of being far larger than they actually are due to her absolutely massive thigh gap pushing her legs apart.

      Okay, fine, one more thing. Yes, I am american, and asian countries do generally have a different (and ridiculous IMO) standard of thin, where anything above bare minimal body fat content is considered morbidly obese, but I think that's a pointless fact to toss around myself, these girls aren't fat according to most of the world's other countries. Even then in asian pornographic films (And am even more significant amount in hentai), you still see a significant amount of curvy girls. Even if they don't like their average citizen to be curvy, they seem to love it when it's time to fap.

      Ooookay maybe I lied, one more thing. Why do you keep tossing out the word Liberal Politician like that? I'm... not sure if it's an insult or not, I really don't care about politics, but I get the feeling that you're meaning it as an insult.

      And don't get me wrong, I was glad to see H-bomb is looking after people in his fandom, but at the time I posted what I posted before, I wasn't sure how it'd work, I was working with what I did know, and I apologize there.

      That said, I am going to stop responding to this thread as not to keep the flame wars going, so any and all insults following do not originate from me.

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    24. The way I see it, the outrage is caused less by design of the new mobs (people are mostly being constructive about those) and more by author's habit of removing game content without immediately putting an updated version in it's place. If new designs were added as extra variants of the mobs, everyone would've been happy, having kept what they had and then some. Throwing out old art on the other hand made the current version considerably worse in the eyes of a sizeable fraction of the patrons. Even if we objectively realise that it will be fixed and the game is still an alpha, that's still a fairly disappointing thing to happen. Personally I prefer CCP Games and Wargaming stance on the matter: if player could fly/drive something before patch they will be able to afterwards no matter what it takes.

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    25. What new monsters Harista?

      You keep speaking about new monsters that will fit other body types, but so far all monsters shown are the same. And I can tell you a lot of people aren't satisfied with "maybe some new monster in the future will have a more slim body", especially given expectations from certain creatures and wait time.

      Yes, original monsters were all skinny (and some had big b00bs), but now it looks like it's going the other way around.

      Sure, you can make more plump elves. But that isn't the common image of them. At that point you can just invent a new race, rather than call them elves. Like sparky vampires.

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  5. What purpose will the beach serve? (Merpeople..? Consumables...? NPCs...?)
    Also, I adore s-purple's style and new designs for the monsters. Very nice!

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    1. what i think is before the beach work on the flipping forest to satisfy the feral that greets you at first and make her come on the 20th of the third month if you havent visited her

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    2. ...um, what? What feral? What are you on about? Did I miss something?

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    3. you did -- they're referring to kala, i believe

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    4. Oh, Kala? I'm used to "feral" meaning "animal character" so I was confused. In that case, more Kala (or NPC general) content would be good as well :)

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  6. An actual battle system?!
    Far flung future or not, this is actually shaping up kind of like the Chao mini-game from Sonic Adventure 2: Battle. Only much sexier.

    PLEASE let this happen!

    But a beach? Not sure what you could do out there...
    Other than put a catgirl in a swimsuit and laugh as you push her in the water. And then be rushed to the nearest healer for 3inch gashes all over your body. But srs, nice art, what do you mean by "explore?"

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    1. OH! And glad to hear about the moolah.

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  7. That demons... they are muscular and darker elfs. Demons should like Diablo. Later later later... Please don't push us to far future at every creature. They are no more creatures. They are % 90 human. Demon don't have even claws or horns. Really look at that demon and say what you see honestly. Female demons as succubus should have wings and more thin.

    I respect spurple art and he got talent. So what is the problem? I am waiting the horses for know and if you bring to me horse headed giant elfs i swear i will erase all versions except 4.0 and stop funding until you put monsters and animals to this game.

    I am one of the biggest fan of this project and as a honest follower I sadly need to say that, you are just passing the line and leaving the old charming soul behind you.

    And again please don't tell me just to wait for 6 or more months to see first feral trait real creature.

    I am a bit harsh maybe because I am not angry, I am very sad...

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    1. I think they look like a demon. There are hundreds of different types of demons out there, it's not like there's only one kind of demonic entity. And succubi are the very image of lust incarnate, why WOULDN'T they have massive breasts and large hips?

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    2. If you're one of the biggest fans and honest followers, have some more faith in H-bomb and S-purple (and now Mittsies).

      JUST BECAUSE THE GAME IS NOT CATERING TO YOUR EVERY WHIM WITH 2 PEOPLE WORKING FOR A MERE 2 MONTHS DOESN'T MEAN YOUR WANTS ARE GOING TO BE IGNORED.

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    3. When did the female demon turn into a succubus? And even if so, as is already stated above, a succubus is an embodyment of lust. They could (and maybe should just look like human then. Just sexy as hell.)
      I must agree though, that the demons look kind of tame. They are evil by default and should embody this. If they behave like that in the game it's an other story though. To reflect they evilness you could make a complete different and chaotic type as feral version for example.

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    4. The Demons in this game don't have any lore yet, but according to the game, Monsters are not inherently evil. I am going to assume until it's stated otherwise that Demons also follow this rule and are not evil by default.

      The most commonly referred to type of Female Demon is a Succubus, and this is a porn game (you know, sex and stuff). So I'm considering it a Succubus.

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    5. Dude, chill. Have some patience. I imagine the reason they're all fairly humanoid at this point is because otherwise the feral trait, when implemented, would be a pointless addition. If you absolutely can't wait for your bestiality porn, then why not just keep playing the older versions?

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    6. I, for one, am so relieved that the demons aren't reptilian/draconic like every other fantasy game drawing its main inspiration from D&D. Non-scaled humanoid-shaped demon without eight hundred horns FTW. I liked the semi-undead look of the old demons, but I'll live. :P

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  8. MONSTER RANCHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! sorry had to get that out of my system.

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  9. Just throwing random crap out here. It would be cool if we had a random monster generation aspect of the game. Yes i'm basically getting nostalgic thinking about monster rancher and i'm picturing the discs that revive random different types of monsters. We already have the event thing that lets us get monsters in a new way which is nice, but I still think it would be cool if you found like rare monster eggs or monster babies or something and of course beingg rare they would have different sets of traits and species and abillites than the regular ones we have.

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  10. I'm just wondering how many image-changing traits would be possible to combine on some of the monsters at this point...

    Futa Neoteny Female Demon is about as much as I can come up with for possibilities for variants stacked on each other right now.

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    1. And I'm just siting here wondering when we'll see that button that allows us to sell monsters to the store....

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    2. People would go crazy trying to make a Futa Demongirl.. I want more rare monsters that you can get only by breeding and breeding and breeding

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  11. Oh damn you got Mittsies on board!?

    I've been following his stuff for a couple of years now he is damn good at what he does, animation and music alike. Can't wait to see more of what you all will produce.

    although I do hope this won't put a halt to his other works.

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  12. are you planning an hermaphrodite version of all female monster ? Or u wanna keep some race without this possibility?

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    1. S-Purple claimed EVERYTHING could be futa... even the dudes. He may or may not have been kidding. Neither would surprise me.

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  13. Ooh Mittsies? is this the same Mittsies who did magnificent works with Rockcandy? Definitely looking forward to the new updates~

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    1. Is it? If that's the case, it's GG, the game is gonna be freaking awesome.

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  14. Can't say I like this redesign of the redesign for demons.
    The first redesign looked great, why'd they get turned into elves?

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  15. Holy shit Mittsies is working on this now? Words can not begin to describe the awesomeness of that.

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  16. Whaaaat!? Mittsies is with you now!? OMG!!! >u<
    Me is like dis:

    "http://aeenw.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/surprised-cat.gif"

    Maby some of his awesome music aswell?

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  17. If the first batch of Mittsies animations are as awesome as I know they are going to be, well, I can't wait. I'll probably jump on the patreon wagon.

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  18. H-Bomb: Hey, mom!
    Mom: Yes, sweetie?
    H-Bomb: Me and S-P gunna' make a game!
    Mom: That's great!
    H-Bomb: Mom?
    Mom: Hm?
    H-Bomb: I think is' gunna' be a porn game.
    Mom: That's wonderful, my darling!
    H-Bomb: And, mom!
    Mom: Yes, Habby?
    H-Bomb: Is' gunna' be a farm simulator!
    Mom: That's a very idea!
    H-Bomb: Uhm... and, mom?
    Mom: What is it, dearie?
    H-Bomb: Is' gunna' have turn based fighting!
    Mom: That's great, but are the two of you going to be able to manage all of that?
    H-Bomb: Dun' worry mom, Mittsies' gunna' drop in to help!
    Mom: Really? Good luck, then! <3



    H-Bomb: Hey, dad!
    Dad: GTFO I'm fapping to your sister's burial.
    H-Bomb: ... uh... uuuhh... 'kay?
    Dad: ಠ_ಠ G-T-F-O
    H-Bomb: ... bye dad.



    And that is the true story of how H-Bomb entered adulthood.

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    1. Funny as shit

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    2. H-bomb hire this guy. That's some gold material right there...

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    3. So unfunny that I took back the laughter from the last three good jokes I heard. You should be publicly flogged and raped with a morning star while gargling moose diarrhea.

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  19. Not the biggest fan of the demon redesigns. Thinking about it though, Ive got neoteenies and harpies I can breed. I'll trust you guys to make your game how you see fit. Also I hope I can donate to you guys soon, I love the game and cant wait to see your final vision complete.

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  20. hrm...just thinking cause I know it'll be more work and prolly won't happen anytime soon BUT, is there a possibility that there will be rare futa variants to the all male creatures?

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    1. Why futa variants? ...Isn't the point of futa just the addition of a dick to a female character?

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    2. Because some people don't like males in their porn, but want penises in their porn. That's a part of why Futa was invented/became popular in the first place.

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    3. No, I mean, you have all the female monsters that will have futa variants so why the males? Unless you mean making female versions of each male-only monster, which seems like a lot of uneeded work when there are already four (going on six) options to choose from.

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    4. Because we now have a female Demon model, so people are going to probably want a futa version of it (I personally don't see Butt Stallions or Dickwolves getting a female version at all).

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  21. Love the demons, especially the female variant.

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  22. Mittsies animations and music!?

    *Jizzes in pants*

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  23. Saw Mittsies NG page,
    Ponies Everywhere
    ButtStallion epicness incoming

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  24. >Mittsies
    hype lost

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    1. They got hired for the animating. S-Purple will keep doing art. There won't be any ponies. (Except maybe neoteny buttstalion. >.>)

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    2. HAHA that'd be hilarious wow

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    3. that would actually be awesome, and perhaps gain a few more fans :P

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  25. I'm not a big fan of the demon design. I'd rather them be much less humanoid, and be much less sexually dimorphic. The female demon is like half of the male's size and that's including the horns. At the very least I'd prefer to see them at around the same size; I'd much rather have a giant amazonian woman, because we need more of those.

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  26. sweet the black and white pic looks like a battle arena to earn gil :)

    i so hope it comes into play that way training monsters to have high stats

    would be usefull for something other than harvesting them

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  27. I've noticed one"theme"with monsters - they all seem to have arms and legs fully covered. Be it fur(catgirls, holatrus), stocking/leather(elves, fallen angel), armor or scales/feathers(demons, harpies).

    In the name of diversity, at least one monster should break the mould.

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    1. my guess is that this is to make them look a little monster-like, considering they all have humanoid designs. if the catgirl, for instance, didn't have furry arms and legs, she'd look like a human chick with cat ears and a tail, and she isn't far off from that as it is. since it's a monster breeding sim that's just not the point. (also worth noting that the holstaurus has bare arms if i remember correctly! ;P)

      personally i'd love to see even more monsterlike designs, but maybe that's just me. i like a lot of the redesigns s-purple has done but i do wish critters like the demon, for instance, had retained more beastlyness.

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    2. Feral Trait Which most Monsters are going to have.. Therefore making a new Demon Design that looked beastly redundant. Cheese and crackers people, think a little.

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    3. The hairy demon redesign we got a while back was perfectly monstrous without being a purple elf in leather leggings.
      With elves and demons put together that's 4 humans with pointy ears, 1 furry and 1 almost human monstergirl cat.

      They could at least have goat legs or something.

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    4. >Feral Trait Which most Monsters are going to have.. Therefore making a new Demon Design that looked beastly redundant.

      i was under the impression that only the dickwolf and possibly the buttstallion would have feral versions? not sure if the butt stallion is indeed going to be a centaur or somesuch, but if it is then i figure it would get a feral trait at some point. the rest, though, i haven't heard anything about the feral trait applying to them. if the demon IS going to get a feral trait then i'm interested to see those designs when they're made, but based on everything i've read and seen i didn't think the demon would get a feral trait version at all since its original form wasn't really "feral" to begin with, just monstrous.

      that's what i mean. i'm not trying to be argumentative really, i don't care QUITE enough for that. i'm content at this point with eventually getting a feral trait for dickwolves (and buttstallions probably) so that we get that option. what i'm trying to say, and what the anon above me is saying, is that the demon doesn't look especially monstrous at all, and as the demons were my favorite species before the art reboot i'm sort of disappointed that they haven't retained much of their original monstrous, beastly qualities -- not feral qualities, since those were never much there to begin with.

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    5. The Feral trait will expand to other monster types too, and it may have varying effects depending on the monster type. We're not positive exactly what direction we plan on taking all of these things yet, and we're extremely open to feedback and suggestions in what people would like to see.

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    6. thank you for the quick response H-Bomb! :) this makes me feel a lot better if eventually a feral demon might be introduced that's more monstrous, possibly with goat legs, fur, a tail, fairly inhuman face, giganto dick, etc etc

      my two cents on the matter is that of course the feral butt stallion and dickwolf should be what we would expect, but i'd like for any other monsters that get impacted by the feral trait to be mostly more... monster-like, i spose! which is very vague, so as an example: the feral catgirl could be more like a werecat than the default gjinka design, so possibly a catlike face, fur on most/all of the body, exaggerated lanky, catlike proportions, more dangerous looking, futa version has a barbed cat penis, etc! i dont know if i'm even fully behind my own suggestion since i know a billion people will complain about TOO MANY FURRIES, but basically any design choice that makes these monsters look truly inhuman is something i'm down with. (feral elves maybe would look more like fairies or nymphs, im sure someone out there would be into possibly a bigger -- taller and/or fatter -- and more cowlike or "furry" holstaurus, harpies with bird heads, idfk im just throwing out half-baked ideas off the top of my head, hopefully the idea gets across haha!)

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  28. Alright, so when do I get my money back from last year? You know, back when I payed for that other game you were working on? I think it was that one that had more variation on character design than all this here; remember that one?

    This isn't the game I donated my money to; if it is, then it has gone in a direction I hadn't payed for.

    You have your backers and thousands in cash waiting for you when you finish, so why not toss my money back over here so I can go use it on something else?

    It took me a while to ask, because I wanted to see if anything was going to pan out in a way that I was looking forward to.

    I don't care how any of you try to defend it: All of the 'monsters' (and I use the word lightly) look more human than they were initially intended. Remove the colors and all but a couple look the same with different little accessories tagged on, even the player's character.

    Relying on Traits for variation is a lazy idea that doesn't always deliver. Traits that are currently active that alter appearance have the possibility of never popping up. I see 'Feral' trait being thrown around, but a trait isn't a solution. If it is, then why not have a 'Humanoid' trait instead?

    I don't see this becoming what was originally planned, and would like my money back.

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    1. I crown you king of entitled whining, and bow before your magnificence. All hail the king!

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    2. LMAO, stop funding the game if you don't like where it's going, dumbass.
      A month is plenty of time to see where a game is heading : you were absolutely able to see the progress that was being made at any time and pull out.
      There are plenty of people who are happy to fill your place as a patron ($10k worth, actually) so stop acting like you're entitled to a game 100% catered to what YOU want just because you shelled out a few bucks towards it (just like over a thousand other people...)

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    3. If you'd like a refund for your donation e-mail me at HartistaPipebomb@gmail.com with your full name used on the credit card or paypal account you used to donate with.

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    4. Also, please do not insult each other. We're all capable of disagreeing like adults.

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    5. I agree with this guy, the game feels different and not in a good way. It doesn't feel like the game I loved to play.

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    6. If it feels different and not in a good way, fine, but calling people lazy because what they're doing isn't exactly what you want is entitled whining. So in my eyes you're cool, but the OP doesn't deserve any credit. That said, Hbomb and the dev team are classy folks, so they'll give refunds just on principle. I guess that's how the world works, but I haven't yet gotten so resigned to it I don't want to throw it back in their faces sometimes, even if the classy folks are above it.

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    7. It`s same as demand money for eating bread that does not hit the spot.

      you can find another game and forget this.

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    8. uhg, while i don't really enjoy the new designs as much as the old ones myself. i personally like the zoophile feel of the old dick wolves. that doesn't make the new art style any less awesome. there doing amazing work here, and HPB should keep your money...

      im not about to come on here and go nuts about a few bux i spent on an adult game, made by a couple of people in business for themselves... this isn't walmart, they may give you whatever you want with a little whining, but he shouldn't bow to your complaints just because he made a slight change in HIS original idea. art and creation is like that, if it stayed the same and didn't evolve it would get boring.

      yes i would like to see the old designs kept somewhere, which is what the feral trait is supposed to be later on. but i enjoy what im seeing nonetheless. sure the colors are a little bright and cheerful, and the characters are a bit Mr Universe, but ill get over that, and i'm sure ill still achieve what we all play this game for, just as easily in the end.

      your one of those people who goes into a restaurant and when your food isn't exactly what you wanted your explode and demand compensation for it.... those people make me want to knock em out, and throw their asses in the gutter out front.

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    9. You, sir, win +100 internets.

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    10. If it was from last year, before the Patreon system, there's no 'pull out' button. That was back when the 'donate to vote' was in place, and used PayPal.

      It's a bit difficult to translate emotion into text, and I didn't intend to seem like I was 'exploding'.

      I have had food in a restaurant that wasn't exactly what I wanted, but rather than blow up, I just ended up buying something else.

      This, however, is not food, and I treat it differently. I had put money towards a game that is no longer active, that used a donation system that is no longer active. What I had been looking for in a game was not met, and was abandoned for another, similar, project.

      We all have our own tastes and opinions; these are mine.

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  29. I actually think that the female demons should probably be a lot bigger then they're being proposed as being here. They ultimately are filling the same sort of body type as the female elves and holsterus with this design. Why not have a much larger girl with them?

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    1. I'm with Dark, it would kinda be nice if this rare trait gender bent demon had a more unique feel. Make it (nearly) as large as the male counter part or give her an altered figure. Ain't nothin' wrong with lady thunder-thighs over there but we have that already. Not that I dislike S-Purple's design or long to go back to the old models, he's really bringing some quality to the proceedings, but there has been a fair amount of homogeneity to the builds of our monster girls.

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  30. instead of releasing monsters into the wild if you dont want them instead could you put a sell button on the new monster so itll be something like

    keep sell release that way having a bad egg could be sold theres times i have had monsters with no str dex cha wil fer sta and would have been better to sell to petshop to get something for bringing it to life

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  31. That's awesome, Mittsies is a fantastic animator. Also, futa demons needed ASAP.

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    1. I would also love the futa demons, but of course they've got a 'to do' list that's insanely long, so I wouldn't count on it.

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    2. Futa demons should get a third look. Only fair.

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  32. Looks very promising! Makes me wonder what exactly will be in the recent upd. Uh, I think tomorrow my F5 will hurt..

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    1. Tomorrow's update will be a small-ish one. You'll get the new models/variations for male/female elves, a few new sex animations (none for the elves yet, though), and some bug fixes mostly.

      The update on the 30th will be larger.

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    2. Yeah, I guess it wouldn't make sense to charge forward on animations when you just got a new animator, especially one at Mittsies level.

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  33. HOLY SHIT! MITTSIES!?!?
    THIS IS FUCKING GOLD.

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  34. Why not add a neotony trait that effects male characters as well? Dick pups, hellspawn, ect

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    1. This is already planned.

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  35. Oh yeah! Bring on da porn.

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  36. Hey the demons look a bit oddish, I mean the details are real good, but the form, they both seem to have really short legs. What's up with that?

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    1. Good eye, I'll be looking into fixing proportions for when they'll be shipped.

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    2. I don't know if you plan on changing anything else but the male's shoulder and chest size look ridiculously huge compared to everything else. The proportions just make them looks weird and wonky with how short they are(legs and torso). Like an upside down weeble wobble.

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  37. Oh, Mittsies, then we can expect bestiality)

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  38. Regarding fighting.

    If it's same monster vs. same monster (Catgirl vs. Catgirl, Dickwolf vs. Dickwolf) it may work. But otherwise, no. It's like mixing lightweight and heavy weight.


    Also, I notice a very specific trend with S-Purples monster design (especailyl when compare with Haristas old style):
    http://s12.postimg.org/471o8ala5/BS_template.jpg
    Top row is old, bottom is new

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    1. Holstaurus doesn't have covered arms. O:
      Also. As someone that loves stockings, thigh highs and long gloves; more please.

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    2. if you've ever played games with combat elements (from games like final fantasy and disgaea to street fighter and super smash bros) then you'd know there's really nothing to worry about regarding pitting a catgirl against a dickwolf. i'm assuming that the monster's stats will dictate how well it fights which would mean there's no problem at all -- the monster with the stronger stats would be more likely to win, plain and simple. but even barring that, someone smaller like the catgirl might be nimble and speedy which could allow them to dance circles around someone bigger and stronger like the dickwolf. size isn't everything! :)

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    3. Except when it is.

      Me vs. a 5-year old kid. Perfectly fair. Size isn't everything.

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  39. What ever happened to the bunny girls you were planning early on?

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