Saturday, May 31, 2014

Alpha Build 4.8 for Patrons

Whew, okay, I will admit the last few hours have not been very fun. Ran into a few problems I was not expecting while attempting to add in the new animations. As a result some things I wanted to add did not make it in (namely the catgirl/catgirl animation). A lot of small convenience features got left out (was planning to add a donate button to the newborn menu and work in another couple of debug codes). I plan on doing a hotfix next week to rectify this. Still, I at least managed to get a good amount of meat in there. Many of the new systems I just put in are extremely rough and not at all balanced yet, so I do plan on tweaking them right away in the hotfix once you guys test them out a little.

Additions
- Monster donations/guild services have been added to the game. Go to the pens to donate a monster to the guild to get guild points, which you can spend in the guild services window in the guildhall by clicking on the notice board. The UI is still placeholder, and while stat/trait/store size upgrades and the ability to refresh clients work, you can't use the ordering system just yet.
- The brand spanking new Demon models have been added to the game, with a plethora of new variations
- The Elf Stockades and the Demon Pit have been added to the game
- Two new animations for Dickwolves/Elf Girls (rubbing and insertion, the animation will vary depending on whether their mating produces offspring or not)

Bug Fixes
- Fixed some minor menu errors (combo boxes staying when you close a window, etc)
- Reworked the system for applying color/variations to monsters

Now I gotta pass out :P.

EDIT: Very aware of the animation issues guys, will have a quick hotfix for them by the end of the day.

81 comments:

  1. Sorry for the off-topic comment, but I don't know where to ask so ill ask here. Is the wait time for updates for non-donators ever going to be reduced? I plan on donating (I guess its called becoming a patron) as soon as I get a job, but waiting a full month for each update seems like a pretty long time for those of us who can't donate.

    Whether you eventually decide to change the time or not, I wanted to let you know that I already love this game, and can't wait to see how much you can improve it. Keep up the good work

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    1. I doubt it will be reduced.
      But if I recall correctly it's not a month, just a week.
      So bear with it for a while, and good luck in getting a job!

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    2. It *was* a week, and it's been getting closer to a month with successive updates. I think the public release should come three weeks later this time. After that, I think the intention was to make it so each public release coincides with the next donor release.

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    3. We're pretty much leeching off of the cooperative efforts of the developers and patrons here. Sure, our feedback is more than nothing, but we're still sort of parasitic and I think it's very generous of the devs to allow the general public to have access to the releases at all.

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    4. There was no intention for my reply to have any tone of frustration. The only intention was to convey what I believe the release schedule is at this point. The emphasis on the fact that it *was* a week was only to make sure that non-donors don't get their hopes up only to get disappointed in a week. While I'd love to have access sooner, I am by no means *angry* about waiting a couple of weeks to get something for free that other people are paying to get now.

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    5. According to the patreon website its a month, but if it really is just a couple of weeks then sorry and please ignore my comment

      Also I agree that we are "leeching" off of the developers, which is why I would like to start donating as soon as possible. I just wanted to know if the delay will ever be reduced for those of us that are currently unable to donate. I'm sorry if seemed like I just wanted to leech more, I didnt intend for it to sound that way but I can see how many people could take it like that

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  2. insertion animation for the dickwolf + elf girl is broken, friend.

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    1. woah, that is pretty broken! and mildly hilarious. how dose she manage to keep her neck perfectly still while the breasts and head move with the dickwolf torso!? must do lots of yoga.

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  3. When will the public release be?

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    1. About 2 weeks, if memory serves.

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    2. Sorry, a month. Messed up there.

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    3. You know, maybe I should stop posting right after I wake up and barely know where I am.

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  4. Quite a lot of work for a double animation that's broken. Seriously, man, last patch you assured people this one is gonna be "large".

    I'm not seeing it.

    Never expected you to jump from making games from fun to professional but this is really disappointing. Sorry, but with updates like these, it's not even worth 1$.

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    1. Yeah, no offense Hartista, I'm not saying this to flame or make anyone feel bad -- But in the last post you already announced that it would be taking one day longer than announced and then there are still suddenly problems you didn't foresee, causing important stuff to be left out at the last minute?

      Release the Hotfix quickly...

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    2. No offence, but he put the donation system in. I'm pretty sure that took a hell of a lot of coding to get working.

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    3. None taken, but it probably didn't no.

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  5. Not that much for "large update" indeed, quick hotfix during following 2 days would be nice...
    New demons look very good, though I wonder why their penises are whirled behind, is there some kind of frontal gravity? :P
    Looking forward for hot cat/cat animation, and please do not delay new holstauruses too much! T_T

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  6. Completely dissapointed with this update. I even have no reason why.

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  7. I thought this was going to be a "big update" but I don't see it.
    I hope the CG/CG animation comes soon.

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  8. First everyone wants new stuff ASAP and then everyone whines that some things are broken ... in my personal opinion at this point the game looks worse than before all the graphical changes started to happen ( not that the new style is bad ,cause its not .... but the fact that there are two styles of character designs in the game at thisame time makes it very weird ) ... why not make one patch a month ( or maybe even two months ) but make it a "big one" .. and a polished on.

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    1. Because then people whine about there not being enough patches.

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    2. This would never work out because people are self entitled pricks

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  9. Every update I see people complaining about the quality of the update and some missed promises blah blah blah, seriously you guys a doing pretty good job of it I can't imagine how difficult this would be to do.

    I have a suggestion that would possibly reduce the complaints, perhaps instead of giving out actual deadlines for when you want to have an update out, set out a plan of the stuff you want to put into then next update and have a tracker that says about what % of the update you are working on is completed.

    Sure you could still set a personal deadline but you wouldn't get berated for the unforseen issues causing some of the stuff you said you wanted to get finished by X date in on that update.

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    1. Double that, very good idea. Also, It was a bit unreasonable to announce plenty of the new arts without actually placing them in the nearest update, so just prepare for a bunch of negative replies. You should make a schedule of announces just for yourself, so you'll know what and when to announce to recieve the most positive feedback from pledgers. Anyway, fix bugs as soon as possible: even if the animation itself looks quite acceptable, this orgy of skincolours is terrible. New animation is better than breeder's one, and waaay more better than catgirl-wolf. Just add some sounds and facial expressions. The only thing that REALLY worries me is the new concepts of Margo and Roxie. Enough is enogh, stahp enlarging their hips plz, add some thin females.

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    2. Exactly, you can't, so how could you possibly judge if they are doing a "pretty good job". Stop with the apologist attitude you pansy and acting like everyone is wrong for obviously right reasons. Unless you think this: http://gfycat.com/TerrificPerfumedAfghanhound, 2-3 new background images and a new broken and incomplete GUI for a feature with extremely simple logic (yes it is, I do code myself, not necessarily games but that certainly wasn't in any way hard or especially complex) is worth $13,000.

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    3. "Apologist" god I hate that terminology, it's completely worthless, and for some asinine reason it has blown up lately.

      The only part of my statement that could even remotely count as an "apologist" mindset is my first sentence. I was being supportive of the developers, so obviously I'm defending them because showing any signs of support on the internet means you would give your life to defend said person... The rest of the statement was a suggestion to keep stress down and to perhaps calm individuals such as yourself.

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    4. How could you possibly be supportive of what they delivered?

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    5. remoresefree,

      Apologist, fanboy whatever. The fact is this game runs on people's money they give freely and they amount to a pretty large sum per month. Now I'm not talking for anyone but me, and I'm not inclined to continue contributing to this project cause I'm getting tired of listening to the devs assuring me the next patch is gonna be awesome to make up for the previous one that had difficulties.

      And in the event you missed it, the most valid signs of support come under the form of money, that's how that works. If you feel the need to support the devs any other ways, be my guest, but don't pretend like people don't have a right to be disappointed by this patch.

      And devs, set your priorities. People could do probably deal better with one patch a month that delivers a good quantity of content and a sense of advancement towards completion, that with more patches like this one.

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  10. Exactly, you can't, so how could you possibly judge if they are doing a "pretty good job". Stop with the apologist attitude you pansy and acting like everyone is wrong for obviously right reasons. Unless you think this: http://gfycat.com/TerrificPerfumedAfghanhound, 2-3 new background images and a new broken and incomplete GUI for a feature with extremely simple logic (yes it is, I do code myself, not necessarily games but that certainly wasn't in any way hard or especially complex) is worth $13,000.

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  11. I love the new animations, but fuck. Another month of waiting. I hope the cumshots will be done soon, because i can't hold mine any longer. Please make haste Hartista.

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    1. A month shouldn't be the expected. The intent as things are progressing should be every 2 weeks right now.

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  12. H-chan's gonna wake up and witness the abomination that is the animation.
    HOPEFULLY, us donators get a super quick hotfix sometime soon.
    No pressure though.

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    1. Yeah, this'll be fixed by the end of the day.

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  13. Hbomb - have you considered making your 4th a test/qa engineer? That way you're not trying to manage a lot of external (to you) code, but still lift some of the release cycle load. It's also really nice to write up to a point, throw it over the fence, and let someone else take a look at it for a while, except without the headache of releasing to the general public. If they're good, they can even submit some of the simpler bug fixes themselves and only bounce back the head-scratchers. It sounds like where you are right now you're passing unit tests but failing on integration - not uncommon when a project reaches this complexity. To me, that means you're at a stage where dedicated test is getting really handy.

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    1. Agreed, once you hit 15k, a tester/extra coder might be useful. Really it comes down where the bottleneck in the workflow is. Since you started this by yourself, you can fill in where needed (final adds, animation, coding, testing) and rely on your specialist.

      Or a sound guy, cause that it's lacking /non-exsistant as far as I can see

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  14. i just have one question and hope you dont mind it, how long do you think it will take to introduce the neoteny? just wanna know since im waiting for that to start donating

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    1. Its already implemented as a trait

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    2. there are currently "old style" neoteny holstarus and catgirl.

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  15. the Felf+Dwolf rubbing animation seems to be broken or unfinished. the elf in the animation looks nothing like my elf, down to the hair color/style (blonde and long instead of black and in a ponytail) and skin tone (peachy instead of tan), although strangely the breasts and left shoulder of the elf in the animation are the correct skin tone.

    UPDATE: after a few tries it finally showed the correct elf, which is good, although it's strange that it would make that error several times before doing it right. also, amusingly, the ponytail hairstyle doesn't look quite right with this animation; her ponytail appears to be sawing the arm of the dickwolf right off. still trying for the penetration animation to see if that one works properly. aaaaand the next time i got the rubbing animation the same error from earlier occurred lmao. i got a different female elf (purple skin, strawberry blonde long hair) and the rubbing animation displayed everything correctly, so maybe it's an issue with that particular combination?

    UPDATE 2: HAHA OH WOW finally got the penetration animation and it is definitely not working right. one of her nipples is displaying as the wrong color (although frankly that might be a shading thing since i'm noticing it on the idle animations too), and her shoulders, head, breasts, and right leg are the only parts of her that move; everything else remains stationary. i got this with the purple elf, so i'll keep trying with the tan elf and see if there are any differences. yep, finally got the animation with her and she's displaying with the same bugs as with the rubbing animation, AND with the same animation errors as the purple elf.

    i'll post again if i find any more bugs.

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    1. I'm very aware of the animation problems, I'll try to get that hotfixed by the end of the day.

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    2. Thank you H-Bomb. Glad to know you are on it.

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    3. The problem ended up being related to something much deeper than just an animation error, as it has to do with the whole system I have set up for setting variations/colors/skin tones in the animations. As a result fixing this is taking a while, I'm going to try to have it hotfixed by tomorrow morning, though.

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    4. Thank you, Harista. :)

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  16. So i recently started playing this great game and i just needed to know: Our character is it realy a girl and if so can't we choose a different gender?

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    1. a male breeder is planned so you will be able to pick your gender, however don't expect that for a while as I believe they're trying to get the monsters out of the way first.

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    2. Yea, really wish we could play as a male, hope the update comes soon.

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  17. Harista, thanks for the update, as always. Its a real shame about the broken animations. You need to stop pulling all nighters on release night! Shoot to have your release ready a day or two ahead of time. Then, you can release on time and stress free. I realize you are pushing builds as fast as you can make them, but a little time management and planning goes a long way! Tired devs have a higher bug rate which only makes for more work in the future.

    On a different note, do you have a ballpark for when you're going to change over to the new stat system you proposed? I spent some time with today's build, and FER is still acting as hunger rather than fertility.

    As always man, don't listen to the haters. Sure, this was a pretty sloppy release for a monthly update, but I have confidence that you guys will get your workflow all lined and up stabilized soon. It can be tricky gearing up something like this from pet project to professional development, and the community should be more understanding of that.

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  18. Will there be v4.8 for those who can't donate like myself? I enjoyed playing this game but I don't really like spending money just to get games like most games I have right now are demos which sucks.

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    1. The whole thing is that you get everything a little sooner if you do at least the minimum donation of $1. By little i mean like a week to 2 weeks i think. So you don't have to donate, eventually there will be a public release for each version if you wait a week or 2.

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    2. I understand now, thank you

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  19. This may have already been said somewhere, but just in case, the exe file on patreon is being blocked by chrome ( and i'm assuming other browsers probably) because it thinks its malicious. I'm sure you could go in and change the settings but so far i'm just posting for people to use the swf version which seems to work fine. Just saying it in case it hasn't already been said.

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  20. you must donate tou play the 4.8 version???

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  21. I refer you to my above post.

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  22. Where can I ask general gameplay questions? I'm trying to figure out how to donate monsters to the monster shop instead of releasing them into the wild.

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    1. go into the specific monster's pen (like the dickwolf yard, catgirl kennel, etc) and then underneath "harvest" and "feed" and etc you'll see the "donate" option!

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    2. Thank you so much internet person!

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    3. you are welcome friend :)

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  23. Wondering if the female demon have been implemented in this update and if so whats the rate of their appearing?

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    1. Not yet, probably will be next month.

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  24. I really wish that you would redo the DickwolfxRancher scene. The circular boobs-jiggling is really unsexy

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  25. Impressions after playing.

    Dickwolfx Breeder and Dickwolf xElf animations need work.

    Elves need work. I'm not talking about dem hips, but the silly "stockings" and eyes. I just can't fap to this anymore, which sux gives that elves were my n1 monster.

    Like the donation system.

    Still difficult/impossible to get the monster you visually want without cheating

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    1. Stockings are hot. But not for everyone, so perhaps having an option to remove them would be nice somewhere along the line.

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    2. Stockings CAN be hot. But not these. Stockings with open soals and toes are an eyesore - they draw attention to the toes insted of the leg. Also, they make little sense - why wear stockings at all when the parts that touch the ground (or are in the shes) are uncovered.
      Not to mention that elves are supposed to be sex-crazed exhibitionists - why wear anything at all? What's wrong with normal nudity? So far every monster had SOMETHING covering up their arms/legs.

      On anohter note, the explanation for the monster growth rate is...bad. Better not have any or just say the growth is magically accelerated or something. Or have the monsters actually go trough a few days of pregnancy, like the player.

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  26. I don't know if you will read this but.


    Make the game you want to make, not what others want, That is why so many games fail, they make what OTHER people want and not what they want.

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    1. OP again, Also helps to not forget where you started, or to change direction halfway through.

      You don't want to be the Battlefield 4 of sex games :P

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    2. Agreed, I will only mention the bugs and issues (such as the very awkward Felf x Dickwolf animation), but as for the game itself and how it is made is up to the people making it. They invest their own time and effort seeking only our financial support and critique on bugs. If they want stockings on the elves then that's what the hell they will do, they could put silly hats on them for all I care...okay maybe not that but you get the point.

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    3. Usually I'd have to agree, but in this case many players are the people who are making decisions about how the game is made (an obvious example is the donation monsters, who are completely decided by one person) The profit of this game is also dictated by how much people are willing to pay for content *they* want - less appealing content, less donators. So while I think it's important for the creators to stick to their guns at times and to make final decisions, taking in input is also important.

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  27. Really liking how things are going, looking forward to the hotfix.
    Still, I believe that the new butt stallions still need to be implemented, along with its original animations.

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  29. Ahem, now I saw new elves as well, tried donation a little, and there is some thoughts about new (and comparatively new) content:
    - elven girls are somewhat chubby near waist area. Not so good looking, esp during animation.
    - facial during breeder/dw animation inadequate. Such a huge cock, and no significant reaction looks quite odd.
    - no cumshots! ((( And overall tendency to one-screen animation not so nice, at least rub/fuck-cum chain was more promising, ideally would be 3 and more screen chain (not following 2-3 months, of course :3).
    - elven girls movements are quite rough, 'glued' joints look somewhat eye-cracking. %) Overall movement smoothing for all monsters would be nice, though not so fast-progressing aim.
    - trait upgrades doesn't work for me. Maybe a bug?
    - 4-th and 5-th catgirls in their house don't look very eye-joying. Maybe some pose change would do?
    About eg/dw half-animation you know already. ;)
    Overall game improvement direction is right though, you're doing a very good job! ))

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  30. From where I can download this game?

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  31. I propose a hilarious thought, two futa elves with super long penises "sword" fighting each other. (not asking or proposing for this to be in the game, just bored and thought that was funny) hehehehehe now picture them with the derp trait.......even better.

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  32. I thought one of the hallmarks of elves, in pretty much EVERY source material, is that they're quite petite and lithe. Here they're rather voluptuous to put it politely. It's a shame, the old elves were my favourites by far. Likewise the holstaurus which were slimly built girls in the old version with massive udders, are now BBW's.. not my cup of tea at all. It'd be really nice to have a girl monster that wasn't so hippy. Without going completely the other direction like the harpy's.

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  33. Just a question but what does the patreon show up as on the credit card bill?

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  34. When is the next update for non-pat?

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    1. nothing..only for pat-things ...ok the 7th is working but i think its only for cash ..sry but i think so (my english is bad ..i know)

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