Monday, March 3, 2014

More Monster Mock-Ups

Here's some more monster mock-ups from S-Purple. We decided to make the holstauruses curvier to increase the variety of body-types.



198 comments:

  1. Hi, long time observer, love your work and like the redesign mock-ups, I know its a prototype image and all but i feel the holstauruses gets wide a little too fast round the waist, maybe curve it more or make her taller. Apart from the Shwig is amazing.

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    1. I think the problem with holstaurus was her boobs and legs didn't match the frame of her shoulders, arms and ribcage. Also, her belly button implies she's much more obese than it is. Keep in mind that I'm nowhere near the artist schwig is, but I tried a little filling out in those regions and it looks a whole lot more natural.

      http://s14.postimg.org/9k5mq8v3l/Holstaurus.png

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    2. Lol. A decent edit there :'D
      I support the statement above, but suggest making the wideness of her bottom, to match her shoulders a bit more. And the bellybutton really is indicating that she is plant chubby. I would be very glad to see it at least higher, so that her belly does not imply that it's just hanging there... But she is sexy in a way. Just that her face, pussy and shoulders really don't add up to the size of her belly.
      And i hope to see those harpie legs spread in the game :'D One hot bird that is.

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    3. while i like both arts so far my only complaint is the lack of emotion that was present in the previous versions simple things like adding a blush when a character stutters or rolled back eyes when they orgasm makes a huge difference otherwise i like that the game is advancing even if at a slow pace after all u.u a game delayed is worth the wait while a game that is rushed is always lame :/

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    4. to be honist i love the old art style other the new art style, yes i look better to some but personally for me i liked the old style, gave more meaning for me, and to put blankly i loved the thought that they were feral rather than everything being anthro on the farm, if by chance you could have a button to revert back and forth between the two art styles i would love that

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  2. Nice examples .. let's discuss them
    1. Wolf. Head is better for sure but legs.. you can get examples from wolf team game.

    2. Harpy looks nice and frigale. A Butt horse can tear her apart easily. She is OK totally.

    3. Holstaur is not my type but she likes some one wearing pants. Her legs are like cloths. Maybe some more blending with human skin could be nice.

    Can you make an animation? So it's the important part. We need to see them in action . How will fit the new style...

    And it's very nice to see updates so much..

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    1. It is really nice to see consistent updates. I would also like to see what this will look animated. Does anyone have a sample of any of Shwigs art animated for a general reference.

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    2. I agree with the updates, its really nice when there are frequent.
      Also, maybe add a Hot Female Demon

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    3. I love most of the new redesigns and new characters but I'm not so thrilled with the new Dick Wolf. The head I liked but not thrilled with the body. It just seems like you're making Dick Wolves more human. I thought the original designs were meant to be more of beast feel along with the butt stallion and the redesign moves away from that. Or at least its a play on the whole Dire Wolf mythos, which are just large wolves. As a new character that's fine and all.

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  3. I agree with the earlier comment about the Holstaurus becoming a little too curvy, too fast. She almost seems fat like this.
    Also, why not give the harpies 'normal' arms and attach the wings to their backs. For the 'monster' effect you could make the hands clawlike, like talons. This way to they would be more women/girls, but of course keeping the monster concept. It would also make them more versatile in animations; like being on all fours or hands on the cock.

    Overall, nice visual changed! Keep it up!

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    1. because harpys are like that. it would not be a harpy if the wings was on the back like you said.it would be similar to a angel or something

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    2. You mean a sort of gryphan? Because thats what you would get with clawed hands and wimgs on their backs.

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    3. Succubus is the word you were looking for. Which are the female version of demons! Make it happen!

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    4. love how you all get it wrong is is a Sphinx but a sphinx is part lion to so maybe not lol

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    5. My appologies for confusing my winged monsters XD. Looking at google, and my previous encounters with harpies in games/art all I can say is that there are obviously multiple variants through various fantasies.
      The comment about the Succubi being female demons did make me think about something rather obvious; all species should have two genders, shouldn't they? So Succubi as females for the Demons. Minotaurs as males for the Holstaurus, a Lion/Tiger type of creature as male version of the catgirls...
      think about it...

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    6. That's what we have the "futanari" trait for.

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  4. I love the holstaurus redesign. A "fat" cow? How bizarre! I'm not a big fan of the wolf yet, but I'm sure seeing him in action will help. Anyway, good luck with the website and keep up the good work!

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  5. i looooooove the holstasaurus! more chubby gals! :) i'd love to see her have a bit more of a tummy, too, but clearly according to the comments so far that would be far too much for this crowd. :P regardless i really hope you keep this basic shape at least! she's a cow girl, chub makes perfect sense. it'd be really adorable if the holstasaurus with neoteny was cute and pudgy too!

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  6. Hey, i loved your game, Nice work! I got one idea that i really want to know what you think. What about more ways to harvest monsters? Like a dickwolf for exemple, when you click in harvest a menu could open showing a few options to harvest like, hands(handjob), feet(footjob), mouth, vaginal anda anal. And each of then have levels that will increase as you use then, being able to harvest more or better quallity stuff. Also the animation could change a bit as you level, like a handjob in lower levels would be done with one hand, then two hands, then one hand in the cock and
    another in the balls etc. Some of the options to harvest would be limited to some monsters, like a harpy, it would be weird to harvest from an harpy doing anal.

    Please tell me what you think.

    Also, a way to change the main char would be nice, maybe an option to be male or female. Some footjob animations would be nice as well :3

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    1. Not necessarily if you bring toys into the mix.

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  7. I'm going to throw my support for the Holstaurus redesign as well. The harpy is great the harpy too, give me variety.

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  8. centaurs CENTAURS!!!!

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    1. yeah centaurs and minotaurs should be the next creatures!

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    2. why not change butt stallions into centaurs

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    3. I like the Butt Stallions.

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    4. then why not make it so when the character has sex with a butt stallion it makes a centaur

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  9. I know I'm likely in the minority, but the original dick-wolf redesign was my favorite. Although I'd like to see a design closer to the original as well.

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    1. same, the proportions were great. I think it could be done in the newart style easily.

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  10. Dickwolf looks a bit better. I still don't know why he's got a black censored dick. He needs a canine dick, and a big pair of balls. Other than that, this is definitely an improvement over the last design.

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    1. No use putting work into a dick when you're working on design. It's not really going to change much. My two criticisms would be the chest being too large and the canines being back toward his molars. Otherwise, big improvements!

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  11. Dickwolf is getting there, he still has weird stubby legs, and his upper torso, especially right above the stomache is too wide. It just makes him look like a roided out mutant of a werewolf like this. The proportions are still super wonky.

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  12. I absolutely love the new harpies design.

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  13. Actually, seeing as the Holstaurus is the booby creature, for her body type her tits seem a shade small.
    I know lots of people like small boobs. There'll be there on any number of creatures - especially neotony ones.
    But please let us have one (the Haulstaurus)?
    Thanks for taking the time to read this.

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    1. As a lady with Holstaurus' body type, and a large breasted family. Her tits are way huge. I have similar shape to her, but with a bit more gut, and my breasts are 50 DD hers are more like 50 F, without the natural sag.

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    2. I feel she is really balanced, ofc unreal. but I think it fits her. Her leggings need some work I think, or might just be me focusing too much on it.

      The wolfs foot needs more muscles tho, but the harpy looks really well, wouldn't mind her pads to be one small size bigger either, just to differentiate between Neoteny and "normal". But that is something that will most likely be resolved when neoteny is introduced.

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    3. Her tits need to be bigger.
      She's Holstaurus!
      Not human.

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    4. Holy shit, those are massive. I didn't realize we were all Japanese 0.0

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    5. Dude.
      Seriously.
      Bigger tits.
      No hate.
      Just truly massively titanic titties.
      The rest can all have mosquito bites. 'Sall good.

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    6. Well I suppose we could have a oppai perk (big boob perk) :P

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  14. Dickwolf looks a fair but more like a wolf in the head it's perfect. However, his body is still resembles a Pitbull. He's looking a lot better now though! If I had to pick one of the mock ups thus far, this would be the one. I'd still like to see him with a neck and some thinning down but that's entirely personal preference. That being said It definitely gives the appearance of a stocky wolf.

    Harpy looks perfect I love the Harpy's appearance especially the blending on her arms to wings. That is just beautiful. They look like they're part of her arms. Only real suggestion I could make is maybe blend the line between her human skin and bird legs?

    Holstarus looks great! I love how she looks a little more like a larger lady. My only complaint is with the leg fur. It looks like she's wearing some kind of designer pantyhose. I'd love to see the blending of the harpy arms to wings applied to the Holstarus legs so that it looks more like part of her body and less like a fashion accessory.

    Overall though the monster designs are lookin' pretty good! Keep up the good work!

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  15. I am just thinking abiut the next update

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  16. Still not a big fan of the upright dickwolf (but this is the best of those I don't like!)but the ladies look great!

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  17. The wolf looks much better now, the harpy looks good but you can't really see her tits...like at all, and the holstaur is a little too curvy (I understand it's supposed to be curvy because it's supposed to be part cow and whatnot but it's a little too much)

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  18. Hi, I've been a fan for a while and thought I'd just say these updates are really nice to see. I'm glad you took some help with the project.

    I haven't read all the comments about the new art but my take is that everyone is probably right as far as body-types. People seem to be accepting that there can only be ONE art set to represent each breed. That limitation means that you are inclined to make holstauruses be the fat breed while harpies will be the anorexic ones. I'm going to go the opposite and say I'd rather have fewer breeds in exchange for more variation with them.

    What I mean is that in reality (although this isn't reality) each monster should have variation in shapes/sizes. Aside from skin/hair color tones and eyes, perhaps some would just come out fat or skinny. Some could just have larger breasts/dicks than others by random chance.

    Even better would be tying body appearance to monster stats in some way. Maybe as a monster's stats increase, their breast size increases. Strength increases could make a fat monster become skinny, or a thin monster bulk up. Maybe dick/ball size and hip width could correlate with breeding chance.

    If I were working on the project I'd focus on making a super varied catgirl and dickwolf first. Having the monsters truly change as the result of breeding would be really fun and worth the limitation. Anyway, I look forward to whatever is next.

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    1. I can totally see what you mean, but I think we would need more people to do that tho as we then would need lets say 3-4 boob sizes for possibly 3 different poses on each monster, and that has to be animated as well.

      And mimicking art styles isn't always that easy.

      But yeah it's doable, and I would love for it to happen ;)

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    2. Just have a gradient slider for boob/dick size. Each monster has a value and passes down that value +/- a random value up to a set limit. Wouldn't really need different poses. I don't think it wouldn't be that difficult.

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    3. Wait, so as there stats get bigger, so do their boobs??? What about those of us who like them flat?

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    4. Wouldn't need different poses? How do you plan to have them breed then? and having a gradient slider for size isn't difficult?

      You are really underestimating the work here buddy, If you know how to do it please tell me, but other wise, i suggest you look into what you are talking about. Not trying to be hostile, but doing things like this is not easy.

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    5. I don't see how having a scale slider as difficult. It's a pretty standard feature on most art/animation programs. I dunno, maybe I'm oversimplifying it, I'm not a programmer.

      I was saying you don't need different poses for different sized boobs. Between different monsters should have different poses as has been done in the past.

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    6. "Wait, so as there stats get bigger, so do their boobs??? What about those of us who like them flat?"

      That part was poorly worded by me because I was thinking holstaurus since they are harvested for milk which might be tied to size for that stat.

      As for the difficulty of my suggestion, I was trying to say the number of breeds should be limited to only a few to make it possible, and now is great timing considering there is a reboot on the art right now. All of the breeds could be added back over time, but the major point is that one awesome breed is better than a bunch of breeds with missing animations. Lets not forget that animation content has been missing forever already. Adding breeds has only made the workload worse over time and I don't expect Shwig or anyone for that matter to be able to drop in all that content all at once unless it's like 6 months from now.

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  19. The holstauruses are perfect!

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    1. Meh the nipples are too small..... Bigger nipples, then its perfect!

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  20. you could keep your holstaurus redesign and please everyone else if you made species specific traits that could be bred in or out A.K.A. curvy or thin. and for the other not so well endowed races, Macromastia

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  21. I still prefer the original dickwolf it gave the game a more natural feel of harvesting dangerous creatures this one seems to human like. The holstaurus in my opinion just looks fat especially around the waist and stomach in my opinion she could be slimmed down some or made taller.

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    1. I agree the holstaurus was my favorite and I tried to get them as early on as I could but with this new body type they might be bumped down to last with them being fat now.

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    2. Well I disagree completely. They've been bumped up a notch or two in my books.

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  22. I think these are Shwig's best character models so far, especially for the use of gradients/transitions between colors where appropriate. Very slick-looking.

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  23. Why does every female model need enormous nipples? I get it with holtasaurus, and catgirls to a certain degree, but harpies literally have larger nipples than boobs. What's up with that?

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    1. Yea, I love little perky nips! The harpies areola is too big for the boob size.

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  24. I agree with the others saying the holstauruses are too fat at the moment. That's more of a whale than a cow.

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  25. A point, looking at the silhouette of the current mockup of the new dick wolf and the former demon, they seem very similar. I see this a problem because one of the draws of breeding season is the different body types, and positions those body types provide. and while I would have no problem with it as a variant it could be an overall detriment as the animalistic feeling is lost, or lessened to some degree.

    Though some of the comments hinted at different body types for the same monsters. So I guess we'll just wait and see.

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  26. Hm. I like my girls with some meat on their bones, but I still think the holstaurus design goes a bit too far. The massive love pillows aren't the problem, but her waist is just too broad in my opinion. And while I dig the general design of the harpy (birds have to be light) I can't say that I like her face. Her eyes seem... weird.

    Also I still doubt that these models can be animated as easily as the original designs, what with all the highlights. Then again I don't know jack all about flash.

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    1. yea I think the prob is that the holstaurus head is too small for the body.I know some people are into chubby (I am not) but it would be much more attractive if THE NIPPLE ALONE wasn't bigger than HER FACE.

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  27. Really like the new Harpy. Still fenced about the limbs on the Dickwolf, but his face looks better for sure! Holstaurus looks nice, but I'm more into skinny little girls so that's just a 'me' preference, she looks good art wise most definitely!

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  28. The harpy looks awesome! some suggestions regarding the appearance:
    * the scales and skin could fade in a little smoother
    * the nips could protrude out a little more
    * the breasts could be elevated in the lower parts just a little, or the upper breasts could be depressed a little bit
    * they could have arms with wings protruding from the back side (see WoW harpies for reference)

    the Holstaurus looks neat, although I would argue they look more fat than curvy in the hip and pelvic regions.
    * the hair in the lower regions looks more like skin than hair, perhaps you could add imperfections to resemble hair?
    * the hooves do not look like they can support the weight of the creature, they could be slightly thicker
    * the height of the creature could be increased to accentuate the curves, this would ofc make it appear less fat
    * the horns! They could be slightly bigger, along with the ears being more narrow to represent a bovine creature (they currently look like large cat ears)

    the wolf is a great improvement from the previous one. I prefer feral but I guess that will not be possible so my only suggestion is to make the ears more natural, they look way too straight.

    that's all from me, my apologies if this comment is overly negative, I just wanted to give constructive feedback.

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    1. Honestly I have to disagree about the fur on the Holstaurus. The reason I disagree is have you ever been up close to a cow? Like horses their fur is very short and appears smooth more like skin then fur. I do believe the fur where it meets skin should be more blended. But overall the fur looks right for a cow monster.

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  29. i just wanna know one thing, is the neoteeny and futas still on the game, i love neoteeny especially the cat XD

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  30. i love the holstaurus, but my one suggestion would be to make it so the belly button isnt a flat line, because it makes her look overweight. that being said, love the new designs and if the belly button is fixed ill love the holstaurii even more!

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  31. Holostaurus looks fat. Having large hips is ok but make the waist and belly somewhat thinner. I dunno, its like the widening of the hips starts way too early and should be further down, giving her a longer midsection. Harpy is good. Dickwolf looks slightly better but im still annoyed that its replacing the current feral design.

    Whoever mentioned that the areola of the nipples were too big...yeah i think so too but its not that big deal. At least its not like the last design where the nipple was kinda long and big (marshmallow nipples as opposed to pea sized. thats the best example i can come up with). Besides Swig seems to have some kind of thing for that kind of nipple type which is disappointing and theres not much we can do about it.

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  32. Skinny harpies! Yay!!
    Chubby holstaurus! Yay!!
    Anthro dickwolf! Aw, man.

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    1. My reaction exactly. the animalistic dickwolf just feels a whole lot more natural

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  33. Pfft, screw the haters, bring on the chubby milk maids!

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  34. I love the harpies except for the eyes. They're pretty weird. The dickwolf's legs ARE too small, and the holstaurus's tits are a bit to large for me (as well as the hips) but other than that, great. I wanna see Shwig's design for the main character!

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    1. Also, the areolas are too big on the cow as well.

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  35. Like some of the others said the holstaurus is too fat and if you make her taller it may make her look better and less fat. The small legs on the wolf is my only problem with it.

    ps. If I seem rude in the way I wrote this I didn't mean to.

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  36. Chubby Holaftarus :(
    Sideways belly button :(

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  37. I love the new body shape of the holstaurus! Sexy thick, much like that classic sex symbol Marilyn Monroe. I tend to agree with the "stocking" crowd and would suggest perhaps keeping the fur line at upper thigh, but extending the spots up the flank, tapering off at the waist. I would also like to see about 2-3" nipples on her breasts, to make them udderly delectable, and would also perhaps help with the milking animation, allowing the human to milk her like a cow, pulling milk from the nipples rather than the entire tit. The last critical point is in regards to her horns, which imo should be a bit shorter, rounded, and bone colored rather than black. Finally, she needs pubes. Save the bald look for the vealtaurus, who should be chubby, cute, and have about a C or D-cup and 1-2" nipples. The vealtaurus should also have a couple of cute and small horn nubs as well.

    The harpy is pretty close to perfect now. She is slender and small breasted. If there are any changes to be made, it should be in the finer details.

    As far as the dickwolf goes...
    I think that the current body type would be perfect for a minotaur, with a long-horned bull head, hooves, and powerful hands.
    Imo, the perfect dickwolf is very well-toned, but lithe. My mind's-eye vision for the DW is more of a wiry bastard who would choose to carve you up with a saber rather than the current incarnation who looks like he should be carrying a sledgehammer or a big club.

    All in all, great progress! Please keep up the awesome work!

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  38. Please have dickwolves be feral

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  39. I gotta ask. Have you guys ever tossed around the idea of having genderbent versions of the monsters?

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    1. you mean like the futa versions of all the female monsters? yeah, thats been around for a while and is incorporated in the game. Try it!

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    2. tho there doesn't seem to be any herm versions of the normally male monsters (dickwolves, butt stallions, and demons). I don't think that the majority of the playerbase for this game are super-enthusiastic about herm versions of males, so I wouldn't expect to see them anytime really soon, either.

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    3. My idea wasn't so much as making the male monsters herms as it was just seeing female or male types of the monsters. For example we already have a male elf slave and a female elf slave so why not have something similar for the other monsters. Like, instead of just having a male demon that looks like a devil we can have a female demon that's basically a succubus or instead of having a holstaurus which is basically a cow girl we can also have a male version which is like a bull or minotaur creature. You see what I mean.

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    4. Oh... by your use of the term genderbent, I was thinking more along the lines of both genders in the same creature, or of a Dickwolf in a dress. Having both genders of the same (or similar) species, however, is a bit of a different animal altogether ;)
      I agree that eventually I would like to see both genders of each species as well. However, I foresee some difficulties in creating opposite genders for some species that would also be highly appealing for the general player base. Minotaurs and succubi shouldn't be a significant popularity or art problem overall. They are an established monster type that can be drawn with physical features that will enhance a sexually charged game such as this. A male version of the harpy, or female version of a butt stallion or dickwolf is going to be much more problematic, especially given their names. (Bitchwolf?). Even a catboy is more difficult for artists to make appealing unless they have more human-like genitilia. Generally speaking, the major appeal to a butt stallion is the fact that it is literally "hung like a horse" and wants to loves to get busy on someone's rear end. The catgirl has a flexible, feminine grace that would be difficult to bring a large amount of masculinity to unless the male version is more feral like the original dickwolf. And much of my enjoyment of the dickwolf stems from the fact that he comes across as a domineering masculine shithead (much like many human male pornstars of today), which could be difficult to translate into the female form. And although I am no mythology expert, I have not heard much, if anything, about male harpies. Even the general noun "harpy" is defined as a scolding, nagging, bad-tempered woman. And finally, unless highly anthromorphed, making a female version of a butt-stallion into a highly sexually charged monster is going to be quite a challenge.

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    5. Yeah sorry about the use off the word. Its the only word I could think of without actually having to bring up making new monster to fill in the opposite gender of the current species of monsters. As to the issues regarding the other monsters I'll say I never thought that far ahead when I first brought of the topic, it was more or less a spur of the moment idea you see, but now that you bring it up I can see how trying to making a female version of a creature who's main feature is Its lengthy phallus would be kinda difficult to work around.

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    6. Also I apologize for misspelled or mispronounced words in my reply. Typing these discussions out on a mobile can be a little difficult.

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  40. I'll throw another log on the 'holstauruses are too chubby imo' fire. Unless you're planning on adding another monster that's built more like the original holstaurus?

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    1. The Succubus will most likely fit the description of absurdly huge boobs with unrealistically tiny waist.

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    2. Thanks HPB. :) Now get the damned website up so I can support you guys already.

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    3. I am happy the proportions are still going to be used! I like the tight figure with big boobs the cowgirls have now.

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  41. Given that this is a sex game, I think that a strong effort should be made at making the male monsters come across as sexy, and not comical. Giant upper body and tiny legs is a very silly appearance, so I'd recommend making the upper body a bit thinner, and giving some real size and power to the legs. Something that would scare/entice people when they see it prowling around the forest next to them.

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    1. I have to agree, the hell is up with those retardedly small legs.

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    2. I think he is a really good artist BUT, that doesn't mean we will always like WHAT he draws lol.
      I think his anthro version will be perfect if the legs get a little meat.

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  42. Great to see some regular status updates here.

    As an overall standpoint- no matter what you do, there are going to be people whining that every single creature isn't to their preference of body type.

    I, for one, am glad to see a little more diversity creeping in. Push each creature further down its respective scale so you can cover the broadest possible spectrum. That way everyone can get a little bit of what they really enjoy. With that in mind, most of the new designs seem fantastic.

    I would agree with some issues about the new Dickwolf, though. Namely that, for a pretty sex-centric game, the current imbalance between upper and lower body just makes the final visual comical. And comical isn't exactly the best partner with sexual content. Make hem huge, or make them lean, but not a waist-based division of the two.

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  43. Wolf - Wish it would be more feral. Looks strange with human-like features and all.

    Harpy - Its okay.

    Holstaurus - Love it. Please don't change much about it, if anything.

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  44. Why do the males look so wonky in his style?

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  45. Just my opinion:
    The Dickwolf still has that legs seeming too fragile for that upper body issue
    I think I prefer the previous harpy better, but I may just be biased in that regard since I had a harpy with a sexy head and very good breeding modifiers that acted as a broodmother of sorts for quite some time during my first play through.
    And the holstaurus does seem to get a little too thick a little too fast

    Overall though, I think the drawings are quite pleasing to the eye for the most part but just have a few things here or there that seem a bit odd or out of place. Regardless, I personally can't wait to see the small variation between monsters of the same species.

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  46. i find that the chest of the wolf is to big in comparison to the rest of his body and i would like to see more fur on him other than that i love the other two

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  47. The male characters will be getting gay scenes, so I don't understand the use of comical proportions on them. The male elf that was posted before has some really big highlight issues with his chest, making it look incredibly strange, and the dickwolf is just weird looking.

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  48. Maybe I'm weird, but I liked the old style drawings... Anyway continue your nice work! :)

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    1. You mean the ones as they were before Shwig took over art? yea, I'd have to agree. though Shwig's harpy and holstaurus look pretty good.

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  49. I've been kind of on the fence about the whole style change thing, but...

    That harpy!

    So want!

    I'm sold.

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  50. I love it all, just, I dunno, personally I would tone down the Holtasaurus a LITTLE bit in the waist area? I get they're supposed to be big and curvy, but this picture takes it a bit past just curves. I still entirely support every decision I've seen made here, however, don't get me wrong.

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    1. You know, honestly... I take it back, the more I look at the Holtasaurus, the more I go "yeah, I can get behind this design"

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    2. it's always funny when Anons try to impersonate other anons.

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    3. Erm... no, it's actually me again (well, three times now). This is the curse of a site not having an edit button for comments. But on the plus side, there aren't trolls making flamebait comments and then changing their comment.

      I guess there's no real way to prove it's me, but trust me!

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    4. Ha, I get it, plus size. I think what was making the holstaurus a bit odd was that the waist shoulders and arms are tiny, but the hips legs and boobs are enormous, and the belly button implied it should be extremely obese in the mid section. I did a little filling out in the tiny areas and tried out a normal navel. Keep in mind, I'm no artist.

      http://postimg.org/image/lm10ke4bx/

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  51. The new Holstaurus is really great. Too few thick chicks in porn games. In fact, although I will miss the feral/quadrapedal dickwolves, all the new monster designs are really awesome

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  52. The holstaurus' body type reminds me a little of my own, and it's so nice to see chubby gals being considered sexy -- because we are! In fact, I would love to see her tummy and her curves be even more pronounced. All I ask is that if you're going to change anything regarding her design, please don't make her skinnier. Body type diversity is something I wish I saw more in games in general, and I'm very happy that you're moving towards that with this game! In a similar vein, since we have the chubby holstauruses and scrawny harpies, maybe the catgirls could be somewhat muscular? I don't mean big and buff, since it wouldn't feel fitting for the catgirl design that this game has going, but some wiry muscle going on, you know. It seems sensible that catgirls would be athletic, after all! And elven girls could be more soft and willowy. (Maybe have a big buff, amazonian female monster be introduced later? A reptilian girl maybe? That'd be pretty awesome! She could be a crocodile gal or something. Hell yeah.)

    It'd be great to see more diversity in the male monsters, too! So far every male character we've seen has been barrel-chested and top-heavy with big muscular thighs and legs that taper down to comically teeny feet. While I actually really adore this stylistic choice for the demon, it doesn't really feel fitting for the dickwolves, and using the same proportions for every male character is sort of uninteresting. Having dickwolves be more lithe and less clunky would better suit a scruffy werewolf dude, if you're still planning on sticking with the were design in the first place. (I remain squarely in the camp that argues you should at least have both feral and bipedal dickwolves; keep the bestiality, I'm beggin' ya!) Elven guys could be slender with maybe more "feminine" body types, like thick thighs and narrower shoulders, and I did see the idea thrown around that the butt stallion could be redesigned into a centaur, which would be pretty awesome -- as long as you keep the horse cock. :) He could be sort of an in-between of the dickwolf (lithe muscle) and demon (buff as all get-out).

    Just some ideas! tl;dr, more diverse body types, more unique character silhouettes!

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    1. I'm just gonna say fuck all ettiquette of trying not to look like a creep on the internet and just ask you to marry me straight up. Also, agreed on all accounts. Although maybe not do both feral and bipedal dickwolves. Too much work while moving forward, getting all the animations in. Maybe just push feral dickwolves aside for the moment, then maybe bring them back later? You know, just for the sake of having less on your plate at once.

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    2. Sorry, buddy, I'm happily taken! ;)

      Fair enough on the count of not doing both at once, although since I was a fan of the bestiality aspect and that was a big part of what initially drew me to the game I would rather prefer keeping the feral dickwolves and having the bipedal ones as something to be introduced later or as a gene similar to neoteny. That said, ultimately it's H-Bomb's choice, and as long as the dickwolf has a doggy dong I'll be on board! (Which would be one of my main critiques of the original dickwolf design, for that matter. Where is the knot? ;P)

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    3. Indeed, where is that knot? whats a dog/wolf beast without a knot?!

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    4. Eeah, I support knot too ;)

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  53. I think I've found what's a little off in the holstaurus. It looks like nothing sags but her stomach. If you put in the flat belly button she would need a bigger gut to go with it, otherwise it looks odd.

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  54. To quote on of the commandments of the church of NO MA'AM, "no fat chicks".

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  55. The character models all look pretty good, I like small girls so other than the Harpy(Looks amazing) All of the female mock ups seem way too large/curvy to me...Especially in the thighs. The original Dickwolf was way more appealing to me as was the Catgirl and Demon ect.

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  56. I'm looking at this art over and over. And I'm trying my best to like the new design direction. So far without success.
    The new art is kinda...harder on the eyes for some reason.

    And the re-desing of some monsters - especially dickwolves and catgirls, who are the meat of the game - just doesn't sit well with me.
    Oh well. Easy come, easy go.
    A shame really.

    It's Haristas game and none of us have a say in it. It's his right to do whatever the frak he wants, even if it destroyes everything some of us considered great about the game, or gave it charm. Ironicly, I can onnly commend him for sticking to his ideas, even if I dislike them.
    Oppinions are like assholes - everyone has one. And thus mine is nothing more than a drop in the ocean.
    However, while Harista can do whatever he wants, so are we free to dislike it as much as we want.

    Who knows, maybe I'll grow to like the changes. I doubt it tough.

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    1. "Frak"?

      Someone's a 40K fan lol.

      Also, I completely agree. I've been looking and re-looking, and no matter how much I try to let it grow on me, I just can't shake the impression that none of these characters look anything but...gross, compared to H-Bomb's own art. Majorly disagree with this decision, but it's his prerogative. I think a lot of people are upset about it though because it WAS a good, fun, hot game; now not so much and so people are upset that they're probably gonna have to stop playing it.

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    2. I feel the same as you. When I look at the art redesign, I get the same pain in the gut I had when I heard SimCity was going to be online only. Like SimCity, I'm just going to have to say oh well and go play and support other games.

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  57. Still not a fan of the orange tint on everything.

    What is it perpetual sunset?

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  58. Hm that Harpy.
    Not sure if that is just shading on the boobs or more gigantic horrible looking nipples.
    If those are nipples than I do wonder what the hell is wrong with this artist as I'd wager no-one in the world has nipples that look anything like what he is drawing.

    Than again looking at it the colour that looks like a large nipple is the same as the shading on the leg so hopefully it is indeed just shading.
    Although anon above does raise a good question about the orange tint. I really damn hope that skin colour is a variable in this new art design because currently it's all looking a bit Jersey Shore.

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    1. What, you mean boobs aren't normally 80% nipple?

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  59. He draws better than I could. That said, I found your own art much, much more attractive H-Bomb. Just saying.

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  60. While I accept that you want appeal to a larger audience, I still think the old art was best with the feral males but I'll still go for leaving both options for the male body types on the table. Though seeing that would cause a back up in the art so how about this: have the mating scenes ambiguous of the males in positions where they look like they could be feral or furry. that way you don't need twice as much art for the project and could put a option to have ether feral or anthro males for the player to chose.

    (for the record the anthro look has turned this project from a unique STYLIZED beastly breeding game to a rather generic looking furry game. I mean if I were to look with both male versions in a line up with other beast types of wolves, I could pick out the feral male as one of your own. Shwig's art, while great, is generic looking as he seems to follow what is normally found on the internet.)

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  61. I like that you're making creative decisions and moving forward in your development. I really like the new art direction and am thrilled you have a dedicated artist on board.

    So far the new art has been amazing and I love the new designs, but the holastaurus doesn't sit well with me.
    I don't think you should totally revert it as the old style, while appealing to my preference of comically large boobs with a skinny bod, was a bit absurd but I think the change goes a tad too far for my taste.

    Just my opinion, but I think taking in the waste/legs in slightly, especially on the left hip would do wonders for the design. Emphasis on slightly, I like that you're aiming to include more body types.

    Also, I agree with the posters above, give monsters with bigger more beastly legs and smaller torsos a shot. At least try to even it out a bit and see how the mock ups turn out.
    Keep up the good work, Hbomb. Glad to see things are moving forward again.

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  62. Why is the dong on the wolf all blacked out ?

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  63. You can always tell when you're on the internet porn end of things, because of the massive schism between what all the virgins think should qualify as a standard and reality.

    Apparently, the current Holtasorus is too fat? Oh lawdy. Kids, the real world is gonna have a whole lot of surprises for you when it comes to women. You're looking at something on the heavier end of average. Fat is a whole nother deal, and if you have dreams of every woman looking like the current harpie...

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    1. Reality? What has reality got to do with anything? We're dealing with fantasies here, and fantasies should be better than reality almost by definition.

      I love Shwing's art though. It's a clear and enormous improvement on the previous (though I miss animalistic dickwolves).

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    2. Not liking overweight girls doesn't make anyone a virgin. The average height of a white woman (35 years old) is about 5' 5" and weight is about 138lbs. That is by no means close to the holtaurus pictured above who you are refering to as an average weight. For comparison's sake, a girl in her mid twenties is about 128lbs on average. I am sorry if you feel you couldn't do better or something?

      That being said the cowgirl is MEANT to look like shes slightly overweight. These drawings are meant to be an exaggeration of what we would see in the real world, and they are filling the fetish for overweight girls. It is INTENTIONALLY drawn to be unrealistic and overweight, don't call it average.

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    3. Way to draw every wrong line. To re-iterate the already stated- she is indeed above average. But the people outcrying that apparently she's now some sort of whale make me chortle, because, as I said. They're not that far off average (absurd breast size aside). Again, as said, they're off the chubby end. But that ain't fat. Heavier end of average comes in the 60-75th percentile, which easily covers current Holstauruses (again, breast size aside).

      Average female weight for a 5"5' may be closer to 138 for the world's population, but this includes all the starving third world. The average UK female is about 150-60lbs, and the average US female is about 160-170lbs. Check your stats.

      If you think that's drawn 'unrealistic and overweight' I have tragic news to bring you about what actual overweight is. For a 5"5' gal, you brush against the border of overwight at 160lbs. A reasonable guess at what that Holstaurus would be- with a normal breast size- is maybe 170lbs, 180 at a push.

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    4. Guy who said 138 is pretty dead on. Average weight for a white woman at 5' 5" is about 135lbs. A 35 year old above 160lbs at that height is overweight. There is no chubby in statistics, its either overweight, or obese.

      If we were to include third world countries (which are not included in ANY major medical statistics due to the lack of medical care in those regions) and other racial demographics such as asians, and indians, the weight/height is actually much lower.

      Also....75th percentile is no where near average. Hate to pop in an argument on a porn blog, but someone is off there rocker calling people virgins for not liking big girls. Its preference.

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    5. http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhsr/nhsr010.pdf

      This is old data, and the numbers have been going up every year. Between 2003 and 2006, at age 19, the average US female is 5"4' and 149lbs. The 20-39 demographic, at that point, averaged 162lbs. Uk data is similar. European data is a little down on average by comparison.

      The point was never that people aren't allowed to not like heavy women, take that straw man down. The point was that people that think this new cowgirl is horrifyingly fat are funny as hell. The BMI distinctions between overweight and obese and societal definitions of what is normal and what is fat don't overlap all that well.

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    6. page 8 of that study says the average 20-39 white female is ~148lbs. 160lbs at 5' 4" is overweight. Regions are irrelevant. Cowgirl is drawn to satisfy the fat fetish.

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    7. U.S. and UK 'average' statistics on weight should pretty much be discounted globally. Just because their entire countries are fat doesn't make it normal or natural.

      Being overweight is still unhealthy as fuck and unappealing.

      It also doesn't make people who prefer the look of a genuinely healthy woman abnormal.

      The tit size of the holastaurus is for guys who have a big tit fetish, imo that should stay [I wonder why]. The chubbiness now appeals to chubby chasers and those with a fat fetish, which sucks imo but I'll deal.

      You're kidding yourself if you think her new physique is normal. It's not.

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  64. I still think that Hbomb's art is better, but the Harpy is pretty cool. The Holstaurus could be change a little bit, maybe with one breast size up :) And the wolf... :( Keep the original form and body and change only the style

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  65. Game design notes: please add an option to have all text appear instantly instead of a letter at a time.

    Client requests: Please make the stat requirements appear in the same order as stats themselves appear. Also it would be good for the client requests to be periodically reshuffled, perhaps once a month, so that players stuck with impossible requests wouldn't be permanently screwed.

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  66. plz, leave Holstaurus the way it was, it was my favorite pet

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    1. Agreed. Holstaurus was my favorite, but I'm not into chubbies. Maybe chubby as a trait gained by too much feed and not enough breed? Maybe interesting.

      Wolf: Head definitely looks better, but yeah, the legs are just weird (too short in comparison to the rest of the body.)

      Harpies: MUCH improved, very HOT.

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    2. chubby as a trait sounds really interesting.

      Please do it this way ;)

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    3. I heard the fem demons are going to get the old cowgirl boob to body shape proportions. I agree that the cows should be changed for the chubby fetish, and the succubus should get the small body big boob niche. Wouldn't make sense to put the chubbiness on any other type of monster.

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    4. "I heard the fem demons are going to get the old cowgirl boob to body shape proportions. I agree that the cows should be changed for the chubby fetish, and the succubus should get the small body big boob niche. Wouldn't make sense to put the chubbiness on any other type of monster."

      I'd be cool with that. Still think the holastaurus should be a little thinner and chubby applied as a trait, but beggars can't be choosers I guess.

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  67. The holstaurus is just ugly fat and the harpy looks like a boy.... : - ( : - ( : - (

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  68. If there is a Futa version of the Holotaurus, maybe you should make her tail (or the end of the tail) the dick. It seems like a funny idea that could (possibly) work. XP
    Good work so far though!!

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  69. The Holstaurus may be skinnier if she have the Neoteny trait guys. I can't wait to see all the new design for Neoteny and I hope you will have it for males too and the Elven Slave Girls.

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  70. Wolf - newer version is ok, though prefer the old animal to the newer anthro-wolves, too much muscle not enuf fur
    cat-girl- feels a bit too anthro, I don't like seeing them stand up straight. They should be in a more felyne position, like facing sideways or crouching/bending teasing, they seem to similar to hols/elves in that position.
    Harpy- love the new harpies (would love to see them fucked thoroughly). Loved the removel of pubic hair
    holstaurus- Hip to right arm looks bad, overall find them a bit too fat in belly/hip/tights, liked the older calfs
    Demon- ...idk

    Just my opinion, you are free to do as you like, but although I enjoy the new art style, i find it a bit too humanized. I liked the bestiality. What still messes a bit with me is the no reaction faces during matting, animals have feelings too :'(

    game wise:
    Still sad with the <X stats.
    moving the .exe file location makes it lose track of it's save, returning it to original folder finds it
    Catgirl squirt still useless
    Released animals should give some money (im thinking 100-150g) Often we need a specific offspring and the rng causes us to lose, the idea would be released animal would go to the shop (not literally) and they would pay us a small fee (unless herpa-derp). A small and nice touch of realism, would also allow a 3rd money making alternative (quality/quantity/consumables)
    Gonna play a bit, might reply with more stuff. mnonyhc

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    1. I think the holstaurus suffers from having weird dimensions. Giant legs, hips and boobs with tiny shoulders, arms and rib area. I filled up the areas that were tiny to make it look more natural. I'm obviously a garbage artist, it's just for concept.

      Note: I can't draw nipples, so I had to remove them. They take up so much room on the original that while moving the connection point to the new shoulder location I had to erase about half of one of them. Figured it'd detract less from the point I was getting at if I just removed both of them.

      http://s14.postimg.org/9k5mq8v3l/Holstaurus.png

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    2. Well that took me 9h straight to beat (would have taken 3 more if I hadn't used a tiny mouse macro).
      I sir did not Hax and was left facepalming at my reward for finishing the game :'(
      Last 2 months were passed milking 2 holstaurus 20 times a day for 440 milk bottles worth 225g each = 99k a day.
      Props to the game not crashing when selling 2k+ bottles at once, lul.
      The time seems weird, as I was grinding the last months each harvest took 20min, but now that I reloaded before that, the same hols with same stats/straits (greased lightning 10 + 1kdex) are taking 22 min.
      I think an option to maybe skip a quest would be in order, something like 1 skip a month maybe or make it cost 200/500/1000g depend on the type. Didnt find any bugs (not counting futa or neo demons, lol)

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  71. Futa... neoteny... chubby... really dislike this direction. It's a nuisance in my eyes, and I might not be the only one. I know there's an option to at least turn of the related "artwork", but even then that fetish junk is still in the game trait-wise, which kinda feels half-assed. Like there is something you don't want to be there, but have to deal with nevertheless. Just something to take into consideration.

    Regardless of the aforementioned, I'd generally advise to not expand everything too much, feature-wise. Instead of adding more monsters and such, better concentrate on creating missing animations, enriching the story, on polishing, deepening and completing what's already there before expanding too much and disregarding the resulting increase in complexity. Might get bogged down in details and loose ends otherwise. Less often is more by far...

    Since you two are overhauling almost everything: instead of adding more monsters or other things, wouldn't it be the perfect time to implement a male breeder?

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    1. H-Bomb has been told this a number of times, but he still falls prey to 'popular' votes more often than not. He really should have stopped at six basic stat monsters and then worked out the rest of the story/mechanics/ etc before adding these extras (neo & futas in particular). They don't add anything to the story (well, the elves might but that could have waited) and it has been how many versions with nothing new to do... I've lost count.

      But now that he has Shwig, he now needs to have something done in both art and game per update, since he is no longer getting bogged down in the art. Something tangible (an event system that doesn't do a single thing is not progress).

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    2. Or a Futanari breeder.

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    3. Meh, the game would seem incomplete without the futas and neotenies. Especially the neotenies. I feel like adding more features first is actually a good idea. It gives us an image of what is going to be in the game, in essence the features are the idea, the structure, that would then be fleshed out by the actual content. Though to be honest I don't like chubby girls much, but I can't really complain this is an H-game after all.

      Actually, I don't like big boobs in general, I can't really understand other men's "fetish" for it. But, eh, this is an H-game, and people get off on those useless lumps of meat that surround the mammary glands for some reason, and I'm not the one who made this game, so why not?

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  72. I'll be honest here - I'm not playing Breeding Season for the porn aspect. That's just a neat little extra. I play it because I love games like Harvest Moon and the Anno series - economy-based games. I don't care too much about the art - I hope the next game has more polished gameplay, like functioning quests from the guild lab and donating to the shop finally working. I also think that you should be able to decline clients, if only at a certain rate (like 3 bronze clients, 2 silver clients and 1 gold client a month). If you just randomly shuffle them out, people are going to be mad because their carefully groomed monster has suddenly turned useless.

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    1. I smell bullshit here. Anyways 99.9% of the rest of us care what the monsters look like.

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    2. I'd LOVE to be able to decline clients... I hate it when all my clients want some trait that just isn't showing up in the shop. Oh, all 3 of you want incorrigible? I saw a monster with that about 3 months ago, let's see if the shop has another one... NOPE.

      But seriously... provided they don't make the monsters plain out sickening to look at, I'd still play the game. Especially if they touched up the debt system and actually made it so you could donate creatures to the shop or lab.

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  73. I don't envy H-Bomb's job of getting a general concensus from all these opinions.
    However, I gotta say it's pretty awesome how much feedback's going on here.

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  74. I love the new designs, the harpy and holstauruses look great.

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  75. Dickwolf design differs so much from the original, not that it's a bad thing. However, while i don't really pay too much attention to male monsters on this game, it's evident resemble to the demon monsters in the current alpha release is something i'm worried about, i hope those get a different design too.

    As a fan of the winged, feathery women, i can say that the old harpy (and i mean design-wise not art-wise) looks better. The talons on this one look like coconut palms and there's somethng wrong with the eyes... Nonthenless the wings and body look gorgeous.

    I'm not a fan of the new Pot-taurus. Her trait should be huge breasts and that only. I think that other female monsters should get that trait however, it looks good, it just isn't what i would look for in a Holstaurus.

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  76. New body types are cool, sure, and appealing to more people is a worthwhile thing to do with this kind of a game but making the holastaurus fat just ain't cool man. She was my favorite and I really don't agree with this change.

    I think adding a chubby trait would be better for people who like that. Would it be a bit more work, yes but on the other hand if someone likes chubby girls they can have any of the females be chubby and those who aren't into it or are even turned off by it [raises hand] can avoid it.

    Also, for the sake of cutting down on some of the work I'd get rid of some of the monsters. Are elf slaves and demons really necessary? It just compounds the amount of work you've gotta do and they weren't exactly earth shattering additions when they were brought in.
    There will probably be people who disagree but I don't think many will miss em to be honest, especially if the monsters are moving in a more bipedal art direction anyways.

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    1. Actually, from a gameplay standpoint, Elf Slaves are HIGHLY useful, simply due to the fact that, currently, they always have one positive Breeding Modifier, and no negatives, as a base, which makes them very good for breeding with other monsters. At least that's how I see it. Plus the fact that they can be harvested to raise a stat cap by a small amount can let you potentially gamble to tinker with a monster to make it fit a Gold or Silver client.

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    2. A fair point. My gripe is mainly with cosmetic redundancy and the excess workload it creates. Besides having the ability to have 3 states being either male or female/futa-female [which is inconvenient as you only have 5 slots for the monster in the first place] it just doesn't justify itself when compared to the other monsters. The female's physique is closer to that of an anorexic catgirl and the boy is well... just a boy, nothing special about either.

      Granted, with the art being redone the visual redundancy is a bit of a moot point but it is still an excessive amount of work for what I feel is little payoff.

      Their attributes/functions could easily be mapped to another monster or function in the game, like food stats or something, and the monster removed for the sake of expediting the development of the other monsters, even if it was just for the short term. I'm sure if they were missed they could be added back later, after other parts are more polished.

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    3. Getting rid of elves and demons?

      Pray tell, what *IS* necessary? By that logic we can remove everything.

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  77. Since when does fat=curvy? Holostaurus doesnt even have a midsection.

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    1. well afterall cows are pretty fat... so... it really does not matter I am happy with the progress

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    2. cows are big not fat most of their body is muscle.

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    3. I mean mostly muscle

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    4. Tried my hand at a little tweaking. Broader shoulders, arms, and mid section, slimmer thighs and hips.

      http://postimg.com/image/144000/holstaurus-143684.jpg

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  78. That's not 'curvier' that's 'fatter'

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  79. thought id pop this up here as its a more recent post lol sorry for multi postings

    oh wow i love this game if you ever want any ideas for creatures in this game i have a ton of them want samples i can send via e-mail or you can visit my page over at www.furaffinity.net/user/rodentkillproductions

    just to point out i did not draw any of these this is my page i commission art for but if any of the character peak your intrest feel free to ask if you can use i'll most likely say yes lol

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  80. Honestly the only thing that needed to adjusted on the Holstaurus was the curve of the hips and thighs. but this is overboard

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  81. Personally, I'm starting to think that this new art has too little contrast between the background and the characters. This is especially visible in Town when Roxie is talking. The background pieces should be less distinct than the parts that are important to the gameplay, and color contrast is one way to achieve this. I get it that other artists like more colourful stuff, but reducing the saturation of the background parts by 10 to 20 % gives a nice effect of making the characters pop out, instead of clashing with, the background. The yellow ground in the farm screen, specifically, is extremely eye-catching when it doesn't need to be, and the red-browns tones of the town buildings are often too close to the colors used for the characters' skin or hair, IMHO.

    UI objects and animal houses could stay at the current saturation, of course, since that would make them stand out from the background as well. I'm not sure how that would look with all the houses visible at once, or in the main screen of the city when the buildings themselves take so much of the screen space. Perhaps if the buildings are desaturated, they could all have more saturated signs hanging out.

    I'd like character name tags shown in the discussion to be visually more similar than they are at the moment. Roxie's nametag is the same brown as her hair and as the wooden house behind it, which hides it from the eye in an unfortunate way. Readability should always be the first priority on text, but currently, the nametags are trying to convey the character more than they try to present us with a readable name. Consistent colors for the background and the text would help, but of course making that work with the different tag designs (papers for Margo, dark steel for inquisition-types, etc.) is a bit of a challenge.

    That said, I think the new art is a massive improvement on the old. No offense meant to the creator, but I'm really eager to see the whole UI made in a new, consistent style!

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    1. agreed! the art is lovely, but the highly saturated backrounds don't allow our eyes to naturally focus on what is important.

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    2. My suggestion would be de-saturate the backgrounds, but when you put your cursor over a building, or a stable, so forth it's colors saturate again so that it becomes prominent and brings the eye back to them. This allows the artist to retain the colors he wants while also making it visually easier on the player since right now it causes a bit of eye strain trying to focus everything at once.

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  82. I have to say that while I did like Harista's art I can (and will) fap to this as well.
    That said, would it be possible to keep an unfinished version somewhere that uses all the original art and animations created up until now? I think one of the main things that worries people about the new art is that they may not be able to see the old art anymore. If this wasn't an issue there might be less complaints.
    Keep up the good work guys and thanks for the game.

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    1. You just use the link to download and save the 4.2 version and Hartista's art stays with you nomatter what.

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  83. That Holstauros is freaking sexy as. Love it!
    I dunno what everyone is whinging about on the wolves, it looks badass.
    Harpy is sexy, my only gripe is her huge eyebrows, maybe?

    I thought the old holstaurus (however you are meant to spell that shit), was a bit boring. There isn't anything the old one could do that the new couldn't do as well, but in a sexier fashion. :P
    Maybe if everyone is whinging too much just use the old proportions for the vealtaurus -maybe shrink her a bit?-, the current one is pretty gross in my opinion lol.

    As usual, all I'm seeing are imporvements. Good job guys!

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  84. Can make the wolf more wolf then werewolf?

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    1. Indeed, A dog would add much more as the demons are already in a stand up position....

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  85. Just a week ago I found out about this game through "gamesofdesire".
    And I have to say - NICE ONE!
    Though it's only a alpha, I already can see a very exciting concept of both intensive funny gameplay and fapable monster content.
    What's off?
    - Animation is a little dissapointing because moves are still too sharp and flaw. I hope it'll be improved with new art.
    - Inadequate facial expression, especially during animation. Watching sex scenes with no emotions on monsters faces is quite odd.
    - I played 5 months until that bitch Delilah got me. All this time I was doing nothing but harvesting and breeding - because there was nothing else to do. Entering dialog scenes and two ones during the first months is not much indeed... Maybe there are more intrigung content ahead, and I just didn't last long enough?
    - Roxie says "I'll gladly take such critters off yer hands" and so on. How can I do it (on the 4-th month I really have too much of them!)? Is it some kind of bug? Functional's not ready? I simply didn't notice a button or something?
    - I need more of the lusty art of these "main heroines"! (Lily, Roxie and so on)
    However, 3 days of exciting (and unexpectedly hard!) play were full of fun! Expect more of this lusty stuff! ^__^
    P.S. Does dl link on offline version of BS 4.2 exists? I'd love to play it offline (because I don't have stable internet access), so can some kind man post it here?..

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    1. Roxie doesn't take critters yet, But clients do, you'll find them in the upper right corner. It's impressive you made it 5 in game months on harvestables alone. The main heroine is actually your character, Lily roxie and so on are kind of bit players so to speak. under the play now on the blog is a download version, it's a small link right under the game window.

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  86. okay i love the game... i like the direction you are going at and i like swigs drawings also. but yet i like yours only because it is original to the beginning of the make of the game. now i have an idea which would make harder for swig but... what if you had the animalistic (dick wolf) as a normal but then with the human intellect trait becomes the off spring to be a anthropomorphic. that is my insight and i think would make even better.

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  87. I think the new Holstaurus design is extremely cute and sexy, and I'm not usually into bigger girls.

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  88. Really like where the overall art style is going. The "old" style was quite cool an characteristic too, though!

    In comparison, I personally prefered the kinda... "disinterested" facial expression Harista's holstauri had over Shwig's. The new one is smiling a tad too silly. And I liked the old feral/dogish dickwolves. The new ones look neat enough, but would be swell in combination with the old stance.

    Besides that, I am eagerly waiting to see the new player character. Is there anything you might be willing to show us yet? And will there be a male player option in the near future?

    I think you two (and we) are best off when combining the best of both worlds, which you're obviously trying to achieve. Cheers for your efforts!

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    1. Also looking forward to the Shwig!PC here.

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  89. I like the new art
    My only gripe is the lack of variation of male body types, as of so far they've all been very beefy, even the feral one.
    I'm hoping it'll be more than an army of huge beasts and just the sissy elves. Satyrs, goblinoids, parasite worms, etc.
    I don't know, go crazy.

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  90. fabulous, keep up the good work! :)

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  91. The Holstaurus is WAAAAAY too fat. I love the tits, but as it stands, the current art for the holstaurus is better... =/

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  92. Very good loking indeed. Much better then current ones.
    Though I'd rather both harpy and holstaurus to be more curvy (they lack of lust as they are now, especially harpy) and hols's hooves seem to be a little too small).
    In new concept dickwolf is more human-like and thus more brutal. Maybe it'd be nicer to make him more 'soft', though he is well done as it is.
    Good luck and inspiration in further art work!

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  93. Man I hate to be that guy to suggest an even bigger workload, but futa Holstaurus and futa Harpies would be amazing! That is assuming it's not already going to be implemented at some point.

    Love everything you've done so far, this is awesome new ground!

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  94. im gonna be honest here i dont like the new artsyle something about it kinda turns me off to the idea of playing this in the future, if by chance you could make something to switch between the two artsyles that would be great, i much preferred the old style rather the new it gave a better feeling to the game than the new one, the new kinda makes it akward for myself

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  95. Yo Holstaurus so fat that you keep the barn inside her and not vice versa!

    Seriously though, I hope you implement at least a way to put her on a treadmill cause she went from by far my favorite to by far my least favorite, and that's not cause the others improved.

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  96. I still think the Dickwolf should look more like a wolf. As he is now, seems a tad cliche and is pushing away from the original idea of the monster. You may as well just change his name to Werewolf.

    Harpy looks good; they need to be able to fly, so less curves makes more sense.

    Holstaurus never really interested me, but curvy does fit the idea that she's supposed to be a dairy cow. The hooves look really awkward on those legs; I think they would fit better on a more animal-styled pair.

    From what I saw of the catgirl, however, I think it would look better to avoid the fur looking like 'stockings' on any of these. It just looks rather silly, in my opinion.

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  97. Why change the wolf to an anthro? The feral monsters were my favourite part of the game

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  98. I love all these comments calling the new holstaurus fat. She ain't fat. She isn't even chubby. She's got thick thighs and wide hips but that don't make her fat.

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