Sunday, June 9, 2013

Alpha Build 3.6

EDIT: Whoops, I realize it's broken. Give me a little bit to figure out why it's acting up.
EDITEDIT: It should be fixed now, let me know if it breaks.

Here's the relatively small update that I had planned for last weekend, before I got sick.

Thanks to Campfire for the music (there's more that I haven't added yet too)! Note that there is a mute button if you want to turn off sound (right now you'll mute both the music and the sound from animations, this will be changed in the future).

I've nerfed store-bought monsters significantly, and changed the way in which their stat caps are determined. I've also made clients a little bit easier to complete. I've halved the amount of time it takes for you to both feed and harvest monsters, hopefully making consumable use a bit more attractive.

You should no longer be able to get two different appearance changing traits on the same monster, nor should you be able to get cruel and altruistic on the same monster. There may be an issue with clients still asking for these things together on a monster.

The bug in which loss immunity traits and consumables didn't work should now be rectified.

Known Issues:
- Still not sure what's causing the save weirdness with the downloadable version of the game. Note: there's a chance that saves made with the downloadable version will interfere with the browser version in unpredictable ways. Clearing your cookies may be able to fix this. If you run into these problems please let me know in as much detail as possible.

- The mute button doesn't always correctly show if the game is muted or not. Clicking it a few times will always fix this.

Also, here's some (long overdue) rough sketches of some of the planned features. These sketches are, as I said, very rough and not necessarily indicative of what the final product will look like. Be sure to give me feedback on how you'd like me to change them.

Male Player Character

Catboy

Mannequin

83 comments:

  1. HE'S ALIVE!!!! :)

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  2. Hey, just tested the downloadable version and the save function seems to work now. When I closed the window and reopened it, my save was still there. I will post again if anything comes up but in the meantime, good job and keep it up. If it takes a little longer to do it right, then by all means take that time because it is worth it. This is C2C signing off.

    PS : C2C is my new tag, I posted on the previous version as an anonymous, still setting it up.

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  3. It seems traits are not locked in the store. Ive seen things like too stonk and greased lightning in the first month in the store.

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    1. Traits are based off client completion, if you completed silver and gold early it will give you traits just as early!

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    2. Too Stronk and Greased Lightning are monster-type specific traits (only dickwolves get Too Stronk, etc). You start with them unlocked but they don't show up on the unlocks list, which seems to confuse a lot of people, so I might just go ahead and add them to the list.

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  4. Cheers to our familiar creator!
    I really wish to ask you something about these sketches, Harista, but this is only my opninion, so...
    Somehow i can not accept japanese conception of mighty child pretending to be a man (MGQ 1/2/3, e.g.). So can you please make your male characters a little bit more masculine? I mean broader shoulders, heavier legs, bigger arms, some visible muscles, so on... For me this Catboy (really, BOY) perfectly fits as "Neoteny" character, but no as "primary" (i.e. CatMAN, lol), but for now i only care about male PC appearance. BTW this is just my whining. Well, what's done is done and now i'm ready for your hard stomping, folks.

    P.S.
    What was the problem with saves? I personally didn't catch any. This game uses LSOs (Local Shared Objects, so-called "flash cookies") as a save file (and many other flash games do the same). BUT somehow this game obtain strong dependency for file (*.swf) location AND file name (for example COC completely name- and location-independent). So if you'll try to rename or move *.swf to another location then game will fail to find your saves. And simple example for better understanding:
    I downloaded game ("Breed.swf") and put it in root of the drive (D:\). After first save i got my LSO at this location -> "C:\Users\Your_User_Name\AppData\Roaming\Macromedia\Flash Player\#SharedObjects\Some_Unique_Name\localhost\Breed.swf\breedingseason35.sol". Experimentally i got that game simulates the full path (from root of the drive) to it's own *.swf for using as path to save file folder + game file name as name for save folder and some relatively constand name for save file (obviously represent game's version). I completely dumb at Action Script but i think it's very possible to get rid of these save "features" and maybe implement multi-save (and maybe daily autosave? :) ).

    For reference:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_shared_object
    http://blog.coursevector.com/minerva

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    1. No. The catboy doesn't look too young nor too masculine. (In my opinion he doesn't really look feminine enough)

      You have to remember that these characters will also be present in the gay animations, and that there will be more "masculine" looking males.

      These males were created SPECIFICALLY i assume for those that want more "feminine" looking males. If you want big muscled dudes, then i would suggest to make a suggestion regarding another type of monster for that specifically, rather than change the direction of what this was to begin with.

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    2. too feminine*

      (But yeah, the cat boy definitely doesn't look too feminine or too young. In my opinion, it would be better for him to be more feminine)

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    3. I agree with you, but there do need to be options for people who prefer feminine-looking guys
      a catboy race would be one of the best choices for a male race that looks feminine

      as far as masculine-looking races, I'm hoping for orcs and minotaurs

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  5. the male character lacks masculinity. the Catboy is fine but the male character looks like he is 15

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    1. I don't think it's "Masculinity", it think he's just way too skinny. Like his limbs look like twigs. Maybe that's what makes him look "younger" to you, he doesn't look as young as you're describing though.

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  6. I'd prefer if the catboy was slightly more feminine, but the main character looks like he's overly young.

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    1. I agree, i would personally say the catboy would be better if he was more feminine.

      Though i personally don't see the main character being "overly young", he looks like he's in his early twenties/late teens. I really do think it's primarily the lack of any "meat on his bones", so to speak. He looks like he weighs 90 lbs. Even stylized he looks nothing like him being "too young", unless you consider late teens/early twenties "too young".

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  7. Great work as always looking forward to future updates especially the new monsters and story elements to come.

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  8. Are cumshots for the player breeding inbound? And what would the mannequin be used for? Love the work you have produced, am quite willing to donate $30-$50 p/fn to the cause but an accurate update/release schedule would be appreciated before I commit anything. I understand time constraints are an issue, but by accurate I mean taking extra time to ensure a steady release as opposed to saying "next week" and then missing the time a week later.
    Also, is it too difficult to add in optional pregnancy for monsters? That is to say 2 options at time of conception- instant birth with lowered chances of bonuses and lower stats or for the pregnant monster to carry the child for a week, but increase the odds of bonuses and stats at the end of the pregnancy?
    How about a gamble feature at the shop? Or even a "special of the day" monster similar to the vending machines in Borderlands?
    And are matching animations for cruel and gentle possible? Say wilder sex for cruel and softer sex for gentle?
    My two cents. Warmest thanks for your work so far and best wishes for your health. -Vect.

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  9. The catboy looks good. Though the male PC looks a bit odd. I know these are rough but the male PC is much too thin, and the pose used doesn't contribute much to the overall look (It makes him look more "stiff" rather than a dynamic pose.).

    For the Masculinity vs Femininity: I would have to say that both would look better a bit more feminine, these are both characters that will get sexed by other males and there should be other monsters for those that have more "masculine" tastes added later on, i assume.

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    1. I agree with this person, except for after "Masculinity vs Femininity"

      I'd like for his hair to be in a different style, too

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  10. Why aren't there any butt shots for the male monsters?

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  11. How about performance based bonuses? Like "Ass Wrecker"- male only, creature will sometimes go for anal and not produce offspring? Have a female equivalent for taking it like "Butt Slut" where she occasionally lunges for a bumming. You could do oral equivalents too. Another 2 cents from.-Vect.

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  12. So how much is it to the final version

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    1. The game is still alpha the next stage would then be beta and that's only after it's gone through a lot of alpha stages, the current set up is just the game being fleshed out and giving a platform to get the artwork up and running.

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    2. Hahahahahahaha....

      It's gonna be a while :P.

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  13. The catboy looks pretty good, sort of lithe and flexible like any cat-related creature should be. The male player character, however... Frankly, he looks fourteen, and that's no age to go into monster breeding. Especially since the female PC looks to be in her twenties at least.

    Now, I know the lithe, elfin femme look is popular among girls these days (although I personally find it kinda meh in most situations), but the main character should be a sort of average kind of good-looking, you know, the kind that goes with everything. So, my five cents, make him more built and rugged, and maybe reconsider the squaresoft-hair.

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    1. Built and rugged wouldn't go very well with the male monsters.

      You have to remember that he's going to be jerking off horses, and getting mounted by wolves just like the female main character. I don't see how the male MC looks young at all, he just looks incredibly odd.

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    2. I hope this isn't so, or at least a toggle option. Yeah, the female PC gets fucked from all angles by the boys, but that's no reason to assume the male character would do the same. I think there should be a dominant variant as a choice. If you want to make both boy and girl have a dominant choice, that's great. But, in the meantime, lets have the male PC have dominant animations made. Then you can flesh out submissive male and dominant female animations (good God, HBomb... You've got your work cut out for you).

      Not all of us that enjoy this game want to be stuffed full of cock, after all.

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    3. Male/male animations are already confirmed and are coming to this game this/next week, it has been announced...many...many times. It has also been said these are optional animations.

      Male/male animations mean gay content, there's no "assumptions" around this basis when it's been confirmed and announced (scroll up and it says right there in the schedule). Any male will have "optional" (Emphasis on optional) gay content henceforth. That includes the male PC, as he's a male.

      The "dominant" suggestion has already been pitched multiple times on the LoK forums in various ways. If you mean a "dominant" male then he would still get fucked, or fuck the male monsters, either way, gay stuff would be happening.

      When it comes to what you prefer, it's really negligible. From my understanding it's the donors or contributors, or hartista himself that has the most say. When it comes to your preferences, I personally disagree and don't want anywhere near what you're suggesting. I don't want a "dominant" male nor do i want some big burly male as the male PC, i would prefer a feminine male imo. Though when it comes to preferences or suggestions contradicting or clashing, it really boils down to those opinions that really matter, which unfortunately i don't think is either mine or yours, but i digress.

      Pretty much just wanted to point out: Yes there will be gay stuff with apparently every male, I would personally prefer a feminine male character as the MC for both the gay and straight stuff, and there's very little chance your or my opinion will really affect any form of outcome regarding any creative process in this game.

      But hey feedback is always wanted i assume and it's always good to express opinions, i just want to say i respectfully disagree.

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    4. Actually, HBomb has mentioned that combinations of donation features are not automatically part of the deal. His example was of there being cumshots for the male/male animations, if I remember correctly? Whichever it was, he'd mentioned that it'd likely be an entirely new donation category. Applying male/male animations for the male pc is certainly not a given.

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    5. Wrong, if i remember correctly cumshots will be added for the male/male animations. Especially since there's only 2 males.

      If i do remember correctly as well, this was asked in the comment section of one of the posts regarding the male PC, and it was already stated.

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    6. Even if he is domineering, he still has to jerk off dickwolves and this and that, and knowing dickwolves it won't end at that. So I think that's that.

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    7. ^ Yeah it was pretty obvious that the male PC would be taking dick. Hands, dick or ass, either way, if there's male monsters and he's supposed to be a "breeder", then it really should be obvious without even saying anything. He obviously gets the fluids and jerks them off, then there's butt stallions with a fetish for ass, and there's animations for monstersXbreeders. So why is this even a debate? Common sense would tell you that if the Male PC does everything that the female PC does, he's going to be doing lots of gay stuff with other male monsters obviously.

      I don't really understand why the anon three posts above is doing mental gymnastics to try to avoid the very basis that this game is revolved around, be it female or male breeder. Again, for the anon three posts above me, male/male animations stated just that, male/male animations, it was never specifically detailed for monsters i believe, just for male/male animations (Otherwise it would have said Male/male MONSTER animations). Not to mention what i just stated up there, you know, all the animations that would come with the inclusion of being a breeder regardless.....

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    8. Hands, mouth or ass*

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    9. I remembered seeing something like this, so I did a bit of digging.
      From the "Male/Male and Neoteny" thread-------->

      HartistaPipebombMay 19, 2013 at 3:52 PM

      There is no lack of new things I'll be adding to get excited about and donate for. Also, these big-ticket features have won but this isn't the last you'll see of them. For instance, cum-shot animations and neoteny will go into the game, but I've decided I'm still going put up "cum-shot animations for neoteny creatures" as a separate donation feature (as it's an entirely new set of animations that I will need to make that is as large as the number of cum-shot animations that I've already made).

      In the future what I'm most likely going to do is divide the features that get added into smaller parts, but also take more of them each month (rather than just the top two). I'm still working out the future of the system, though.

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      Since "Male main character" isn't even a front-runner yet, then gay animations for him are clearly NOT a given. So, don't put your wallets away quite yet, girls

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    10. Yet you never quoted anything for male/male.

      He already confirmed cum shots for male/male animations due to the lack of animations for the option winning.

      The donation voting is also FOR ALL of the animations for that character, which includes the male/male animations otherwise he'd be cutting out a lot of features that would be included.

      Furthermore Neoteny can't be compared to male/male animations, as Neoteny is a huge involvement regarding each and every monster, with unique animations.

      While male/male animations are only between males. It does not become as huge of a burden as either cum shots winning nor Neoteny.

      Your argument makes literally no sense. I really wish HartistaPipebomb would comment on this so this ridiculous debate would come to an end. It's obvious male/male animations would come to the character as it's integral for the feature itself to even be included.

      So this stupid argument can end, would you please comment on the matter HartistaPipebomb? So this doesn't drag on and on with "NUH UH" at every corner with this guy.

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    11. Sorry for not getting to this one sooner guys. The feminine appearance of the catboy and male player character are intentional and were by request from a donor. I'm going to redo the sketch of the male player character as per the feedback I've gotten from comments and from donors directly, but he will remain relatively young (20ish) and feminine. I realize there's demand for a more masculine player character too, so I may put this up as a separate donation feature later, so that you can select between a feminine or masculine character when you start the game. If you already donated for the male player character or catboy and you wanted them more masculine, go ahead and contact me and we can work something out.

      Also, the male player character will have male/male animations from the get-go. Part of the male/male animations feature that won was that "male/male animations will be prioritized for future monsters", this applies to the player as well.

      The male player character is going to be submissive in his animations similarly to the female player character.

      My eventual goal regarding more dominant animations for the player character is that your character will always start out submissive and then as the game progresses and they become more confident they will start getting more and more dominant animations to replace the submissive ones. Flipping monsters on their backs and riding them, etc.

      Also, in the future I intend to be much more specific and detailed with what all the features entail, as I realize they have caused a lot of confusion.

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    12. Thank you for posting and clearing everything up!

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  14. Not sure why a few people think the Player character looks like he's too young. He has the same height, and almost the same proportions as the catboy. It's probably because the catboy has a bit bigger build while the male player character has a much scrawnier build. It also looks like the male player character is just much more unfinished and rough than the catboy. Both look good, but the male player character needs touching up.

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    1. I admit I rushed with the male player sketch, and intend to redo it until I come up with something that my donors are more satisfied with.

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  15. Not to sound greedy but..are you gonna do the male/male update in 5 days or should we expect a delay? It's reasonable if you plan on delaying it but I thought I'd ask. <3

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    1. Yrah I wonder that as well. I think everyone understands delays we just want to know about them

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    2. Male/male animations are still slated for Sunday. Not sure if I will manage to finish all of them + the cumshot animations, but at least some of them will be in by Sunday. Also, not sure about the breeding menu yet, as I'm anticipating that the breeding menu update might break some things.

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  16. Hey, C2C here again.

    The save function on the downloadable version worked when I closed it like I said earlier, but when I turned off my computer, my save data was gone. I'm gonna try Dope's method later, but just curious if you know what's going on there.

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    1. I will answer that it's mainly because of when your computer shut down the game save it is saving like a special type of cookie but it's not technically a cookie for say it's like temporarily data so when your computer shuts down a gets rid of it because it's not technically there you can save it in a flash drive then put it back

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    2. To put it a little more complicated but a lot more concise the save data is on your RAM which is volatile.

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    3. If your using the .exe make sure you allow local storage for flash player, should solve most lost save incidents.

      What has me mildly confused is that when I go to open .sol air throws an exception, I'm not sure if that's intentional (I could see it as an anti-cheat mechanism) or if it's non-intentional and it is actually a bug.

      Also the current file size for people being sticklers with their memory but still want a save is a little less than 15Mb.

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    4. Hey C2C back again, how do you get it to access a copy of a save file then? One that has been saved on a flash drive or something.

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    5. Could you expand on your question? If your asking about how to open a save file I use adobe Air, it's free and allows you to open and change .sol files, if your asking something else then you'll need to expand your question.

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  17. What is the purpose for the mannequin? Will it be used for "training"?

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  18. The mannequin was my idea for a mecha or robot character has of now not sure its purpose other than just being a monster type, it might be a robot, machine monster type I'll be donating for. I like it but it might turn out to become more steam punk or robotic looking it still in the works

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    1. in my opinion the manikin will actually be a monster but I think it's probably going to be to a wooden model not a robotic model because it's and the normal mannequin would be if you were like in art class it could also just be like a sex toy for your monsters so they could increase their stats and you could like harvest in that way as well so they get their stats raise and get their item as well wish it would be cool but expensive because it's like a double feature you get stats raise an item and when the male character gets put into the game he could also use it for pleasure but I would like it they also had a male mannequin so the female can do it as well be a cool idea I also would like if there is like more females which I know they're coming soon but each beginning you have 1 female 1 male and have to work your way up to two more females and finally the final male

      but take it easy man its your project you do what you more time that's completely fine as long as the project is fun that's what matters

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    2. and not to complain but some of the female like facial features kinda seem like they dont care but I did notice that you updated the fucking which is pretty cool its smoother and more natural by the way this might be too personal but what is your work hours because if you come home and you only have like a couple hours to work on man I can kinda see why you can get delayed

      and if you need some drawings look around on the internet a little bit you'll be surprised what you can find I seen a couple animations with some of the characters that you've already been posted like the catboy and the mannequin don't know that was actually you or the other people though

      anyway have fun trying to enjoy life and work on it when you can

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    3. My intention originally was to have the mannequin be a monster type, as requested by Mechaphantom. Though, now that the idea has been put out there, making them some form of training dummy might be interesting, I'll have to think on it.

      Also, jake, I appreciate your enthusiasm but you might want to use punctuation! It would make your comments a lot easier to read.

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    5. Yo bro do you know this manga Monster Musume no Iru Nichijou????
      http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=76715???
      there are a lot of nice monster in it you could use some of them for Inspiration like the spidergirl or centaurusgirl mermaid ^^

      i love your game hope to see more nice updates and thx u so much : )

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    8. Hey guys, not trying to censor you, your opinions on the design of the male player character have been taken into account, but please keep it civil.

      (Yeah, I know I failed at this myself before, but that was a mistake, let's all, including myself, try to be a bit more friendly)

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    9. Sorry HPB. It was a ridiculous argument, I didn't mean to be unfriendly or clog up your comment section. (All for just a descriptor for hair nonetheless.)

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  20. Love the game, good for fapping and not. I have one issue right now though
    See, I acquired a Holstaurus with the Sour modifier. After getting her Stamina up and then harvesting 12 of the milk, I waited until the next day, drugged up one of my other monsters, and let loose my males

    Now, the first two? They bred just fine. Didn't get quite what I wanted, but it wasn't something to save scum over
    The third didn't impregnate

    Now. I gave her 12 milk. With the STACKING of them, the total chance should have been 120%. This means the breeding should have worked, end of story
    Why didn't it?

    I'm seriously curious here

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    1. Depending on what kind of math is being used I saw somewhere the number 1/15 (for the pc I believe but we can use it for this) this is 6% to get pregnant increased by 10% 12 times comes out to be about 21% give or take 1% so basically 1/5 to breed that's why you could breed a few times and still not always 100% of the time get offspring.

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    2. The tooltip for the milk is actually wrong. I will update it to be more accurate when I make fertility visible.

      Basically there is a (monster 1's fertility + monster 2's fertility)/15 chance of getting a child each time. The default fertility is 1, so normally it's a 2/15 chance. Each milk adds to the monster's fertility by 1, so it's actually raising the offspring chance by 1/15th, not 1/10th. You need to give your monster 13 milks in order for it to have a 100% chance of getting offspring.

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  21. Haha, I know I'm not exactly giving my best of input here. ;3 But the presence of a Trap Option for the Player Character in the far future would be a wonderful addition for those who'd prefer to not play a masculine male sort of character. ;3

    As for Monsters... hrm. -Chintap.- I don't exactly know your stance of Futa of any sort. But-- it would be a nice touch if you're not necessarily against it. Again-- this is me just speaking my thoughts; and I'm probably going to be rended down to shreds for it. So-- yeah! Just putting it out there! \ o /

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    1. I would also enjoy seeing a trap player character.

      Also futa is currently leading in the donation voting currently, so that will be added in the future it looks like.

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    2. Anon #1 here! -- I just realized what was in the running and the like; and you're quite right! ^-^;; I'm extremely excited for the new content coming out in the future.

      But-- yes. Since there seems to be a bit of community divisiveness on the topic of Male Character masculinity/femininity; perhaps a 'normal male' and a 'Trap Male' would provide the differentiation that people would like to see to support their desires. ^-^

      But that's just me of course! There's a lot of other things to do after all! <3 Gaaaaah, so excited for today's update! :D

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  22. How's the update coming along Hartista, think you'll be able to post it tomorrow, or do you think it may be delayed? Stellar work so far!

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    1. Update will come on Sunday, can't guarantee everything that will be in it, but definitely at least some of the male/male animations will make it in.

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    2. But there's only 2 males....

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    3. Oh well, I'm still really looking forward to it, and I'm sure you tried your best, so it'll still be a great update!

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    4. @middle anon
      Well, that still means there can be 3 or 4 m/m animations, right? ;-)

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    5. @anon above me - Well yeah, but he said "can't guarantee everything will be in it". That's why i was disappointed. Because there's only 2 males for the animations and it looks like we may be getting only "some" of the animations.

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    6. Specifically I don't know if the cumshots will be finished in time. Just hold tight.

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    7. Oh okay, that makes sense. Thanks for the clarification. I'll be looking forward to the update tomorrow.

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  23. With the hair or body augment can be stopped with adding customization, so they can change body shapes and hair styles.

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  24. Exited for the updates!

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  25. so the update coming out tonight correct

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  26. It's only 9:08PM on the West Coast. Hopefully the update makes it in today. I'm stoked about it

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    1. Alright, I super hate to do this, but I might need to push the update back to tomorrow night. I'll have a better idea whether this is necessary or not in about an hour. It definitely won't be hitting until after midnight, though :(.

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    2. What can we do? These things take time... I will check back in a few hours and hopefully there will be 3.7 in all it's glory!

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  27. What happened to all the comments?

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